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15 Jan 2017 4:09 PM by briando55 Star rating in Yorkshire. 1982 posts Send private message

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I think your reading the papers and taking it as a Mrs May statement.  Easily done, when the paper you choose is the one that leads your arguments.



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15 Jan 2017 4:25 PM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5242 posts Send private message

and simply don't  respond

 

Good advice Tony pity you do not follow it





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15 Jan 2017 4:29 PM by Jarvi Star rating in Halifax UK and Sucin.... 757 posts Send private message

Agreed Tenerife.

No response to them. They can spout their doom and gloom to themselves.





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15 Jan 2017 4:35 PM by potblack Star rating in Alicante & Singapore. 233 posts Send private message

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the solution is easy - a common single health care system across the EU that gives all citizens the benefit of state funded health care. 

We are leaving the EU not joining. Am I on the wrong planet or you.

Maybe too much afternoon tipple?.



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15 Jan 2017 4:40 PM by tteedd Star rating in Hertfordshire & Punt.... 990 posts Send private message

I've just read through two pages of this and learnt nothing. I deserve a medal! Roll on March.

I often wish we could vote people off, and wonder who would go first?

Perhaps we could just award prizes, ie:

Most incomprehensible

Drivel

Biased

Enlightened

Truthfull

Repetitive

Soporific

Worst grammer and spelling





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15 Jan 2017 4:49 PM by Destry Star rating in MYOB . 289 posts Send private message

tteedd,

It always happens when someone has a pop at other folks grammer and spelling, or is it grammar?

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15 Jan 2017 5:18 PM by Tadd1966 Star rating in Los Montesinos. 1754 posts Send private message

Potblack

As I said in my response to jarvi who posted the same

The eu can do it who knows but the UK will miss out

Who knows what reforms the UK will do with the nhs maybe another UK sell off 



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15 Jan 2017 5:45 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Too much TipplePolPotBlack.  You just don't understand the comments when they are made.  But don't worry we do not mind.  As remainers we are very open minded and forgiving.





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15 Jan 2017 8:21 PM by potblack Star rating in Alicante & Singapore. 233 posts Send private message

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perrypower1

The criteria are embedded within an indication of needs matrix, encompassing the contiuum of care needs. The criteria for fully funded EU NHS care (levels 5-6) are designed to take account of the needs of those member states only at the most complex end of the continuum. The vast majority of those in receipt of care from health and social care services are provided from a range of mainstream services, which are available to all according to their need, or packages of support provided jointly by health and social care working in partnership with the EU.



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15 Jan 2017 8:43 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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If you are going to cut and paste Kaisa's work you should at least provide a detailed bibliography.  If you are not sure how it should be presented please refer to wikipedia.





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15 Jan 2017 9:45 PM by MikeandHelen Star rating. 193 posts Send private message

Mariedav, I was talking about recruiting NHS staff from the rest of the world, particularly the ‘English Speaking’ world. Even Chuka Umunna is talking about ‘fair migration’ to the UK after Brexit.

Yes, you are right to point to that there are significant difficulties with illegal migration from non EU countries to the UK but the route in is often via the EU is it not?

And perrypower1 Just more nonsense being spouted to try to support a position that has no merits.

And Mickyfinn No wonder Brexit happened with such mis-informed twaddle. 

Apart from the fact that your information is incorrect, there has not been the political will or influence within the EU for the UK to be in control of recruitment from the rest of the world and many other aspects of day to day life.

Whilst you two (or is it one person) sink to insults, you are obviously irrelevant remoaners who spend your days writing rubbish.

It’s clear that you have never done a job within Public Service and would rather slag of those who have real experience of Health Tourism, the UK Immigration system and live in the UK as you obviously can’t handle the truth.





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15 Jan 2017 9:57 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Just more nonsense being spouted to try to support a position that has no merits.

 





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15 Jan 2017 10:24 PM by tteedd Star rating in Hertfordshire & Punt.... 990 posts Send private message

So why is she rushing to tell us on Tuesday what her plan is for Brexit? 

 

Rushing? Nutters have been demanding to know the plan for months!

We have had one lot of prats saying that they have to know the plan even if it ruins our negociating position

And another lot of prats saying she has no plan

Now she is to talk about her plan, she is rushing!

Can't please some people.





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15 Jan 2017 10:58 PM by MikeandHelen Star rating. 193 posts Send private message

Yes, Perrypower1, glad you admit it.





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15 Jan 2017 10:59 PM by MikeandHelen Star rating. 193 posts Send private message

Yes, Perrypower1, glad you admit it.





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15 Jan 2017 10:59 PM by MikeandHelen Star rating. 193 posts Send private message

Yes, Perrypower1, glad you admit it.





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16 Jan 2017 8:26 AM by hughjardon Star rating in Jaywick Sands. 418 posts Send private message

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GREAT to see the BACK of that OBAMA fella WASTE OF TIME he was welcome DONNY lets do that great deal 

SO FAR SO GOOD on leaving the EU 

Caravan in tact HAPPY DAYS loving LIFE love YOURS looking forward to the FUTURE all working towards a SUCCESFUL OUTCOME 

LOVE to all 

Hugh xx



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16 Jan 2017 8:28 AM by Mickyfinn Star rating in Spain and France. 1833 posts Send private message

I have one simple question to ask Brexiteers. If leaving the EU is going to be so good for the British economy why do the financial markets trash Sterling everytime Teresa May opens her mouth and suggests hard Brexit?

The international Fore/X markets usually know what they are doing and clearly believe the UK economy is heading for meltdown.

Traders have previously viewed May’s pronouncements on Brexit as a reason to sell the pound as she tends to fan speculation she is prioritizing social issues such as clamping down on foreign labor over the trading needs of the economy.

Bloomberg Brexit Bulletin

 


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16 Jan 2017 9:43 AM by briando55 Star rating in Yorkshire. 1982 posts Send private message

I have some basic answers on those points as I see it Micky but I can see you shaking your head as you read them so I'm not sure how much you want an answer!   

Traders and speculators have a clue in their name which tells you what they are about.   If I put it simply, someone who sells double glazing jumps on any speculation about getting colder in winter.    Someone who sells second hand cars will jump all over news about new cars being more expensive, short supply etc.  

City traders make money on speculation and currency changes are driven by them, not by a magic formula of political decisions.  

The EU to be honest is less likely to have such financial gain by speculation because they have a shared currency and its fenced off to some extent.   That's probably why speculators will remain in the country after the exit, much as we don't want them they will more than likely continue raising some of the 50% tax that hmrc get from the city these days.  



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16 Jan 2017 10:29 AM by Mickyfinn Star rating in Spain and France. 1833 posts Send private message

That's one answer Brian thank you. I agree to a certain extent that speculation plays a part. However the strength of a nations currency reflects the underlying econonomic strength of that country going forward. Clearly the Fore/X markets are convinced Britain is going to substantially poorer after a hard Brexit.

That may well be an acceptable choice for they who support Britain leaving the EU. Nationalisim before wealth. However once the economic concequences start to bite home that view may change. One thing is certain everything is going to change. I read somewhere that a number of people voted to leave because they believed house prices would fall. It's entirely possible that may still happen. Britain will not be the same country outside the EU and perhaps that's no bad thing.

I left the country forty years ago because I disliked the way it was becoming. Greed, lack of human empathy and the destruction of family values. I found them again in Europe. Britain outside the EU will become more like a mini state of the USA than it already is.

Orwell predicted in his book 1984 that Britain would be simply become an aircraft carrier for the US military. Maybe that's not so far-fetched even in these post-cold war times.

 


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