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21 Jan 2017 6:06 PM by Tadd1966 Star rating in Los Montesinos. 1754 posts Send private message

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agaian I can't disagree iwth your thoughts

Sadly the constiuents often have no idea what there MP's do on a daily basis (many can't even name them as many vote for the party)

but no outside interest, fully focussed on the job in hand and provide the constituents with their voice in parlaiment seems to make sense to me

 

 



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21 Jan 2017 6:13 PM by Destry Star rating in MYOB . 289 posts Send private message

tteedd,

Other than for Prime Minister's Question Time, the budget and anything other than the norm, all you ever see in the chamber is Dennis Skinner and a handful of others. If the absentees are actually doing something useful for their constituents I don't have a problem with their lack of backsided on benches.



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21 Jan 2017 10:27 PM by ads Star rating. 4124 posts Send private message

Maybe what I'm trying to say is that I wish there were more MPs and MEPs that were genuinely focused on citizens needs and willing to rock the boat and challenge the system without alienating ( where required), be skilled orators and intellectually able, that can sufficiently motivate their peers into action, to be role models but genuine and committed to gaining reform, as opposed to professional politicians looking to their own longer term self interests.

But most importantly remain realistic and not be too ideological.

Tall order I know, but we seem to have too few that possess such attributes.

Still live in hope however!

 


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21 Jan 2017 11:00 PM by tteedd Star rating in Hertfordshire & Punt.... 990 posts Send private message

I don't have a problem with their lack of backsided

 

Nor do I when they are doing something useful elsewhere but when they never turn up, even for divisions, it's a different matter.

 

But most importantly remain realistic and not be too ideological.

Tall order I know

 

Definitely, they all claim they are there to serve, but idology and ambition drive most. Still, at least they will not be farming half the job out to the EU in future.





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22 Jan 2017 9:08 AM by Destry Star rating in MYOB . 289 posts Send private message

It always confuses me how the likes of Skinner appears to be an expert on everything, how he's not yet discovered this forum god only knows.

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22 Jan 2017 9:59 AM by windtalker Star rating. 1935 posts Send private message

The Rise in populism was brought about by MPs filling their boots with tax payer's money and they are only interested in furthering their own interest by taking up the job ,the part of the UK I live in has always been a safe seat for Labour I went along to a monthly meeting held by the labour party, you had to have your questions veted before you could stand up and ask them in public .The questions I put forward was how can you as a MP find time to be on 3 other board's and still be able to do the Job in hand ,I was told by his assistant that my questions are up for consideration but I was not invited to ask them in public. The board's he is on are the Fire/Police/NHS  .he is paid a large fee for sitting on these board's on top of his MPs salary.Look up the word (Populism) it sum's up our MPs

 


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22 Jan 2017 12:20 PM by hugh_man Star rating in Kent/Roda . 1593 posts Send private message

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Hugh

I was talking about MP's salaries.

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Apologies Destry, thought you just meant Boy George's deal, he will no doubt get more from Blackrock.

 

I agree with Ads re MPs motivation, eventually we will all understand that big business runs the world

NOT POLITICIANS who are mainly mere sicophants, not all.

Afraid I can't share Ads optimism, however.





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22 Jan 2017 12:56 PM by Elsietanner Star rating in Alicante & New York. 164 posts Send private message

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Skinner deserves an Oscar just like the rest of them. No wonder Donaldo got in, the public got sick of being fed BS by the establishment and thought they would have a bit of his for a change.



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22 Jan 2017 2:56 PM by ads Star rating. 4124 posts Send private message

I have to add, proactivity from MPs and MEPs depends upon proactivity from constituents also.

In other words it's all too easy to just sit back and bemoan, but feedback is all in this scenario. And not just feedback on issues that necessarily directly affect us but sometimes also feedback in support of those who depend upon support from those who care sufficiently. Emphasis on care, here. 

There are many who dismiss feedback by suggesting "well nothing gets done anyway", "it will never change" etc.

I would ask, how do you gain necessary change if you're never willing to feedback genuine concerns or identify injustice, malpractice, abuse that warrants change?

But just as important is to feedback realistic suggestions, where appropriate, to highlight potential solutions to problems.

With that in mind, here's a means of feedback which eases the process, based upon postcode.

www.writetothem.com





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22 Jan 2017 3:02 PM by Destry Star rating in MYOB . 289 posts Send private message

Theresa May will be the first national leader to be granted an audience with President Donald Trump, I hazard a guess that this is of his making more than hers. If TM hits the correct notes with DT I wager that he would love to rub the EU's nose in a USA/UK trade deal in principle.

 


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22 Jan 2017 4:14 PM by Mickyfinn Star rating in Spain and France. 1833 posts Send private message

Did you not hear him say 'America First'?

Any trade deal with the US even the most comprehensive package will never repace what the UK will lose from trade with the 27 nations of EU. 



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22 Jan 2017 4:20 PM by Destry Star rating in MYOB . 289 posts Send private message

Yes it was very strange that Micky, as the American president I fully expected him to say UK first, but then again I'm not as bright as you.

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22 Jan 2017 4:58 PM by tteedd Star rating in Hertfordshire & Punt.... 990 posts Send private message

If TM hits the correct notes with DT I wager that he would love to rub the EU's nose in a USA/UK trade deal in principle.

 

I suspect, if he is in any way true to his rhetoric then, any deal will have to be in the US's interest. 'Rubbing the EU's noses in it' will be secondary. That said, if TM takes the same line, a deal good for both sides should be acheivable once we have left the EU.

I'd love to be able to be able to buy items from EBay US and not have the PostOffice charge me duty and handling charges. Reduced or nil duties on low cost items would be good for the economy, but might pose a problem for British retailers.





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22 Jan 2017 5:51 PM by ads Star rating. 4124 posts Send private message

Some info...

USA Exports ( top ten)

 

The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in American global shipments during 2015. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from the United States.
Machines, engines, pumps: US$205.8 billion (13.7% of total exports)
Electronic equipment: $169.8 billion (11.3%)
Aircraft, spacecraft: $131.1 billion (8.7%)
Vehicles: $127.1 billion (8.4%)
Oil: $106.1 billion (7.1%)
Medical, technical equipment: $83.4 billion (5.5%)
Plastics: $60.3 billion (4%)
Gems, precious metals, coins: $58.7 billion (3.9%)
Pharmaceuticals: $47.3 billion (3.1%)
Organic chemicals: $38.8 billion (2.6%)
Aircraft and spacecraft was the fastest-growing among the top 10 export categories for 2015, up in value by 49.4% for the 5-year period starting in 2011.
In second place for improving export sales was pharmaceuticals which rose 23.4% led by international sales of antisera, vaccines and human or animal blood.
American-made electronic equipment posted the third-fastest gain in value up 6.5%.
The biggest-declining category among the top 10 US exports was oil which fell 18.7% led by a precipitous decline in refined petroleum sales.

 

USA Imports ( top 10)

 

The following product groups represent the highest dollar value in America’s import purchases during 2015. Also shown is the percentage share each product category represents in terms of overall imports into the US.
Electronic equipment: US$332.9 billion (14.4% of total US imports)
Machines, engines, pumps: $329.3 billion (14.3%)
Vehicles: $283.8 billion (12.3%)
Oil: $201.2 billion (8.7%)
Pharmaceuticals: $86.1 billion (3.7%)
Medical, technical equipment: $78.3 billion (3.4%)
Furniture, lighting, signs: $61.2 billion (2.6%)
Gems, precious metals: $60.2 billion (2.6%)
Organic chemicals: $52.1 billion (2.3%)
Plastics: $50.2 billion (2.2%)
Imported furniture, lighting and signs had the fastest-growing increase in value among the top 10 import categories, up 53.7% for the 5-year period starting in 2011.

In second place for improving import sales were imported vehicles, up 40%. American imports of pharmaceuticals delivered the third-fastest gain at 30.9%.

Oil was the laggard among the top 10 American imports, posting a -55.7% decline in value.
 

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UK exports ( top ten)

 

The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in UK global shipments during 2015. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from United Kingdom.
Machines, engines, pumps: US$63.9 billion (13.9% of total exports)
Gems, precious metals: $53 billion (11.5%)
Vehicles: $50.7 billion (11%)
Pharmaceuticals: $36 billion (7.8%)
Oil: $33.2 billion (7.2%)
Electronic equipment: $29 billion (6.3%)
Aircraft, spacecraft: $18.9 billion (4.1%)
Medical, technical equipment: $18.4 billion (4%)
Organic chemicals: $14 billion (3%)
Plastics: $11.8 billion (2.6%)
Aircraft and spacecraft were the fastest-growing among the top 10 export categories, up 18.2% for the 5-year period starting in 2011.
In second place for improving export sales vehicles which were up 10.2% led by cars and work trucks.
UK pharmaceuticals posted the third-fastest gain in value at 8.4%.
Oil led the decliners down by -49.8%.

 

UK imports ( top ten)


 

The following product groups represent the highest dollar value in United Kingdom’s import purchases during 2015. Also shown is the percentage share each product category represents in terms of overall imports into United Kingdom.
Machines, engines, pumps: US$83.4 billion (13.3% of total UK imports)
Vehicles: $76.8 billion (12.3%)
Electronic equipment: $61 billion (9.7%)
Oil: $50.8 billion (8.1%)
Pharmaceuticals: $33.1 billion (5.3%)
Gems, precious metals: $30 billion (4.8%)
Medical, technical equipment: $18.2 billion (2.9%)
Plastics: $17.7 billion (2.8%)
Aircraft, spacecraft: $15.6 billion (2.5%)
Clothing (not knit or crochet): $11.3 billion (1.8%)
Imported aircraft and spacecraft had the fastest-growing increase in value among the top 10 import categories, up 48.3% for the 5-year period starting in 2011.
In second place for improving import sales were pharmaceuticals, up 27.2%. Close behind were UK imports of vehicles delivering the third-fastest gain at 10.5%.
Gems and precious metals was the laggard among the top 10 UK imports, posting a -57.8% decline.
 





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22 Jan 2017 6:32 PM by Mickyfinn Star rating in Spain and France. 1833 posts Send private message

Trump is contradictionary by design. He says one thing and then does the exact opposite. He MAY do a trade deal with the UK and he may not. 'America First' actually means trade on his terms or no trade. It's part of a used car salesman ethos. Anyone who has bargained in the Soukes of Morocco can understand the tactic.

America will likely do trade deals with many nations on earth if the price is right. The British maybe will just one but the loss of economic advantage of being a member of the largest market on the planet just across the English Channel will not compensate.

The British have to accept they will have to pay a price to leave Europe behind. European nations will ensure they do with the same hardball tactics Mrs May will find on Friday when she visits Washington.

She has boxed herself into a position where she now needs political favours but they come at a price.



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22 Jan 2017 7:16 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Buy american

hire american

Trade deals info already set out on Whitehouse website.  No mention of UK being at front of the line.  No mention of UK at all.  Trump wants to renegotiate existing trade deals first starting with NAFTA.

 





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22 Jan 2017 7:39 PM by hugh_man Star rating in Kent/Roda . 1593 posts Send private message

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Any trade deal with the US even the most comprehensive package will never repace what the UK will lose from trade with the 27 nations of EU. 

So in Mickeys world of fantasy and irrationality, ALL 27 countries of the EU are going to stop buying any products from the UK as we are going  lose all our customers.

And dear oh dear all 27 countries are not going to sell to the UK without adding HUGE tariffs, but not permitted under WTO rules.





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22 Jan 2017 8:33 PM by Mickyfinn Star rating in Spain and France. 1833 posts Send private message

That post is your invention Hugh I did not say anything like that. I said there will be a price to pay for Brexit and the UK will lose it's current market share from the 27 nations of the EU because they are leaving the single market and probably the customs union as well. Uunless the EU capitulates in the negotiations and agrees to a free trade deal on May's terms.

How likely is that?



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22 Jan 2017 8:45 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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No chance at all Micky





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22 Jan 2017 9:12 PM by windtalker Star rating. 1935 posts Send private message

Remoaners are not Democratic they are people that will moan about anything if it does not going their way , l am reading Post's on hear from Remoaners that are moaning about trade deals and other matters that don't exist because they have not been made  yet ,so for your sake that's if you like moaning over something that has not not happened yet please let the experts do the job that they are  proficient in ,and then if a deal has been done and you don't like it you can write a letter of complaint to the Mrs T May telling her that you don't care what 17.5 million have voted  for, you don't like it.

 

 

 


 


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