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02 Jul 2020 00:30:

Very unusual for fees NOT to be based on the sqm of your property as listed in the Catastral Register.

Thread: Ownership quotas and community fees

18 Jun 2020 14:02:

Ha ha, the usual Spanish dilemma.

Ask 5 different experts for an opinion and you will get 5 different opinions.

I think you have to accept the interpretation that your own Administrator utilises as they are the one covered by Community Insurance.

I d be surprised that you would need a unanimous vote on what is, after all a budgetary item but perhaps there is an opinion which suggests those who can't use the pools may not want to pay.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't, at the end of the day if your Community has lots of owners from Madrid the pools will be used.

Thread: swimming pools

24 May 2020 00:51:

Ask your Community Administrator.

Thread: swimming pools

22 May 2020 18:47:

From our Community Administrator after debate...

As you may know, the National Government will allow the use of pools in communities of owners in Stage 2 of the de-escalation. Such stage will come into force, in the areas that the Government decides according to the established parameters, next Monday, May 25th, 2020.

It’s official that the Región de Murcia Authorities will request that the whole Región (except Totana) be included in Stage 2. The National Authorities’ decision will most likely be communicated on Friday, 22nd.

The Instructions of the Government for the use of pools in Stage 2 are too complex for the communities of owners, which has unleashed a wave of complaints by community administrators and pool maintenance companies because it is not possible to comply with all the requirements and many of them entail big expenses.

Level of Security, if it is provided, amongst other rules, the capacity of the pools is to be reduced to 30% of their full capacity, a method for reserving a time slot by appointment and different shift schedules will be required.
In addition, a security perimeter of 2 meters should be established for pool users, where their belongings can be kept.
Supposedly, these additional security implementations, apart from creating management problems, will also have a very high economic cost, since it will practically force a person to be vigilant and guard each pool on a daily basis. Obviously, the community will have to incur this extra cost.

On a technical level, cleaning and disinfection of up to three times a day is required depending on the type of installation and surrounding furniture, as well as the use of specific disinfectants.
Likewise, last Thursday the Ministry of Health published a protocol for maintenance companies, which includes: 
  • Thorough cleaning.
  • Installation of dispensers for sanitizing gel.
  • Provide individual plastic bags to each pool user to store their belongings within their own security perimeter.
  • Special treatments to the water.
  • Continual comprehensive control of the water quality.
  • Etc.

The pool maintenance companies working in our Community have confirmed that, for the time being, they are not in a position to be able to provide this type of service within the required conditions and any added cost will be paid by the Community. 
All these matters have been discussed by the Board and RESORTALIA at length. Due to the difficulty of implementing these rules and their high costs, it’s been decided that the Community pools will not be opened.

We hope that the established requirements will be relaxed in the near future or in the successive stages of the de-escalation so that we can implement a protocol, in which we’re already working, for the use and the enjoyment of our swimming pools. Thank you.

Thread: swimming pools

22 May 2020 00:45:

From what I have read of ALL the government regulations or restrictions on opening of pools under Phase 2, I can see NO way most Communities will be able to comply either financially or administratively, which is going to be a major problem over June/July, unless regulations are further softened.


This message was last edited by hugh_man on 22/05/2020.
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