I want my house

Sorry if this sounds cruel to an old man (ha) but for goodness sake Tweeget, you seem to answer immediately after a posting for Tony?  Dont know if your the same nor do I care but for goodness sake stop writing like a 5 year old.  If you have something to say, grow up and write properly.  Most of us just skip your drivel because we cant be bother to decipher it.  Just write properly or go back to reciting war stories please.  You never know you may be taken somewhat seriously?

Sal

I suggest we call a truce with Twigit.

If he agrees to stay on his own thread the rest of us will sign up to say we will leave him alone and not post on his thread. He in return can then agree not post his undecipherable drivel on our threads or to interrupt the debate constantly .The rest of us can then get on with some of the very good ideas and brainstorming that is going on. I will be first sign up for this to allow for good debate and ideas to flow in proper English.

I JA promise not to post   anything on Twigits thread as long as he keeps his unreadable posts off the other threads .

Signed Julie Anne

 I promise not to post anything on Twitgits thread as long as he keeps his unreadable posts off the other threads.

Signed Arlene

Hullo ta yer all

Well at last theet wind as dropped an so its not so cowld. Can a sey that am appy fer yer ta stay off me channel an leave sensible folk ta get on wi it . So if yer keep ter yer side of ta fence then I'll keep ta mine ...... but I'll wager yer can't stay away!! An just ta remind yer that yer can't get OWT from them thats got NOWT!!

A know yer minds a closed an yell keep feedind legal bods more n more brass even thow they can't do nothin fer yer, ye'll learn sunner a.........

HLFN

twigit

Good on you Twigit thanks  Now back on your own thread and you have our word not to bother you with postings or bad language  Bye Twiggy !!!!

Hi All,

Three very quick things to mention.

• The courts in Spain may be going on strike due the amount of documents that are snowing them under due to the credit crunch and companies entering administration.
  
   
• I understand the irritation about the process and the wish to undertake some form of action to move things along, however,  it needs to be approached carefully.
  The whole concept of I want my house is a positive way to deal with the issue and one that has been listened too and will continued to listened too. That can be clearly seen by the article by the rights group and the probelms that there are globally at this time. It is so so easy to moan and make demands but it is harder and far more construcitve to try to find a positive solution to our problem.
   
• Regarding outcomes and probabilites of the process it is evident that some are not clear on the fact that no matter what they do the money is not there. SARC  stated this in a long time ago and is working hard to try to get a positive out come for all, without alienating nor insulting the Spanish people or culture.

I and many want to have our properties and realise that the only way those without BGs who wish to have their money back will get it is by SADM going ahead and house purchases taking place.

I  WANT MY HOUSE AND A POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR ALL. 

Tony R17 18

Thanks for the 3 very quick things...........but they were not quick enough

if the courts in spain go on strike........i will sit here and laugh my head off........they are so slow we wont even know they have done it..............

Courts dont have a right to strike in EU legislation

 Tony go away we are not remotely interested in any of your quick comments..unless you are telling us its your last post

Arh bless them. Im sure our hearts go out to all Court staff Tony.  Still at least they have had almost two months holiday since May in annual leave to help recover. This is what they are paid to do.  We are entitled to petition against the system as it has failed us all.  No individual is being pointed at.. but we have a right to voice our opinions to the highest levels that we can reach.

Do you have any positive news on the re-finance progression, imminent build.  All news welcome i'm sure, but please Tony, you asked this Forum not to judge you for trying the SARC approach. Why not now be positive about this one??  No one will mind in the least if you get your houses built.  If those with BG's finally get deposits returned rightfully.. wonderful.  For 9 months you have offered your opinion and got precisely nowhere with these people and have been continually lied to/misled.  This is a breath of fresh air for many of us. Try and  offer some support. Hats off to your efforts to-date Tony, try and be open minded to this approach.

Sal

Hi All,

                         just heard some good news the new motorway is almost at the turning for Jumilla that will make the journey quicker.

as for other news apparently there is a credit crunch on and I feel that some people are not being realistic in time frames for negotiating refinance in this climate ah well can't educate everyone.

          I feel that there might be some small amount of people with Bank Gaurentees that really don't give a fig for those with out as by trying to give missinformation they hope that they can make the courts send SJ and HDt into liquidation bad news for us without BG's but good for those 6 or 8 with BG as they win and force the banks to give then their euros back at exhisting exchange rate 50% profit approx but the we the rest might only get as small percentage back.

remember these are the same people who stated last year that El Prsidente was to be arrested by police for missappropration of funds corruption (not true)

also that they in which account the money was (not true there is no money)

also  that they were going to be granted Special status (they didn't get that either)

regards

Brianmags

R4 556

I Want My House

Crickey

We are dealing with builders who can't build houses as quick as the government can build a motorway.  I think you should write to them Brian

I think even in the UK its the houses waiting for the motorway thats the normal outcome, a house building programme that slow deserves to be challenged.

If you have a look back at the visits to Spain by Tony you will find some reference to money in a secure account.  i personally have always been of the opinion the buider has used the money they have had to keep buying land at the expense of doing the work they should have, and we paid them to, do.

Everyone should have a BG.......not 8 people, not 80 people...everyone.  Tell me Brian....is that illegal or not?, whats your take on that...............i want to know if its illegal, dont you?

Sorry for the jest, but after reading Brianmags posting I felt a song coming on..............Chris Rea.............Road To NoWhere

Heyup alan

Just saw this post and had a laff...then i realised, Chris Rea was the road to hell..............which made me laff bit more

Then i realised something else.....................Road to nowhere was by....................and who were you thinking of when you had this freudien slip i wonder..........................road to nowhere was by 'Talking Heads'

Now thats even funnier...........

Well done    lol

Hi briando,

                   When I originally posted about funds and what should happen was in conection with the article on our website which I have said before to your self and then after was when the the other group were stating that the funds were found and when I pressed for confirmation in a written format there was none comming as it was a secret that they needed to keep to be able get special status.(which suprise surprise did not happen) but we did report that there was no cash in June/July in the SARC rreport.

as for the road to no where not a bad song but then there are much better ones such as "Were on the one road" by The Tones

brianmags

R4 556

I Want My House

and all to get what they want as well

"When I originally posted about funds and what should happen was in conection with the article on our website which I have said before to your self and then after was when the the other group were stating that the funds were found "

Please suggest a suitable translator. That makes as much sense as the SARC website.

Hi Brian

Road to ruin..............ramones  /   Highway to Hell..ac/dc

I think we are on them all Bri................even the road to SADM you drop off the end of...............

I bet you the last 50 pence i have left that when the road is built.............the directors of herrado del tollo will be driving on them with their Mercs and BMW's....................you have no idea what money they have or have not until they are properly scrutinised.

And that dosnt mean asking them over a cup of tea and trusting to luck.............it just dont work Brian

Hi All,

In the UK  directors of limited companies are not liable for the company debts. I read in the evening standard that a chef who owned several restaurants in London and owed creitor £ 1 million liquidated the company. He then bought the restuarants back without the debt and carried on buisness and 80% of those who he owed money to have contiuned to supply him. Now that I think is really not on and people accuse HdT of bad practices,at least they are trying to save SADM.

 I WANT MY HOUSE AND A POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR ALL

Tony R17 18

Hi Tony

Where do you get this stuff from...................you read a paper and you solve all ther problems of the financial world.

In the UK the directors of companies have what they call limited liability................its the Ltd that comes after the name of the company

It means their debts are restricted to secured creditors only, which are banks, inland revenue.........and any by arrangements of finance or mortgagage.  There are company directors who can cleverly orchestrate the way a company folds up, then buy the assets back, or even continue ownership of assets.

The thing for you to really know though...............if a company is trading whilst insolvent, the directors have a duty to report it and deal with it, otherwise the directors DO become liable for the debts.  Similarly if a company stalls and stalls on declaration of insolvency, while stripping assets for their own gain...........thay can become liable for their debts.

Now then.............does this ring any bells at all Tony??.................a very slow administration, a very high lack of communication, a load of numpty's on board who will keep the deceipt going?

I bet the agent you dealt with is still popping around in the wings somewhere as well eh.............pretty shamefull if so

With respect Tony, what  you have said is totally untrue.. Brian is absolutely right.  It is unlawful to continue taking deposits when knowingly trading as insolvent.  The Director(s) then become personally liable for the debts and personal assets can be seized in order to pay creditors. 

Can you now answer the questions we have been asking about the current position in terms of re-financing negotiations for SADM.  What are they telling you the current situation is? 

Sal

Sal & Brian are right in what they say a relative of mine was a MD and had to report that the company was trading whilst insolvent

By the way we had a trip to SADM on thursday along with other purchasers and Nuria was in the sales officie the Laird asked if he could put a deposit on a house and was told quite definately NO that at present the company are in Administration and they don't know  when they could start selling again. There is absolutely NO movement the site looks exactly as it did way back to last April the last time we visited

We met Sue & John in Jumilla for lunch and spent a pleasant afternoon, that for all of us just closed the whole SADM dream chapter