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Hi All,

has anyone had any news from Urbasa? I have been told that all the apartments in Amorion have been sold to one man who then has resold them through Palmera to us. Is seems that none of our deposits have reached Urbasa and that Palmera have to be contacted. Has anyone else heard any more?

Hi mate i have been on to urbasa and they have received all my deposit

they didnt mention any other person and if they do its got nowt to do with me i paid them like most of you if not all of you

Hi

Can someone please email me the latest contact we should be emailing/speaking to at Urbasa.  I have my details that I need to send to them.  I know Anca was the last contact but I'm not sure if I've read somewhere that she has now left.

Many thanks

Sarah

Hi Sarah

here you go

phone  0034 966662585

email : urbasa @grupourbasa.com

best of luck

Hi everyone

i have tried ringing urbasa today but  there was no answer

I will try again tomoz  -  hope they are still there

i have tried on the number below

Hi All,

I have been ringing also with no luck. No one answers anymore. I have also e-mailed but yet to recieve an answer

ohoh    I  hope they have not gone you no what !!!

I will try again tomoz

we are going out there monday 7th april

 we are going on almoradi market on that saturday and going for a nosey at the building and also see whats happened to the office

hi all

I've been trying also since last week to contact urbasa by phone but with no luck

good luck on yr trip next week Phil any news at all would be welcome

bill

cheers bill

lets cross our fingers

ITS READY     APRIL FOOL 

I HAVE FINALLY GOT THROUGH TO URBASA ON THE PHONE

FORGOT THEY HAVE BEEN ON HOLIDAY FOR EASTER

THEY ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE AUDIT 

SHE AS TOLD ME THAT ONE MAN AS BOUGHT THE ENTIRE BUILDING AT THE BEGINING

AND THEY STILL HAVE NOT RECIEVED ALL THE MONEY FROM PALMERA

THEY ARE STILL IN THE SAME SITUATION

THE OFFICE IN ALMORADI AS BEEN CLOSED DOWN BUT THE ONE IN ELCHE IS OPEN

I ASKED HER ABOUT GOING BANKCRUPT AND SHE SAID THEY ARE NOT GOING BANKRUPT AND THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO SORT OUT THIS SITUATION

I was hoping that no news is good news but I think in our case no news is no news which is not good

anyone got any news at all?

bill

Hi Bill,

I have been e-mailing and ringing for the last few weeks but have yet to get any answer. The phone just rings out or goes to an answering service, but with no message. I dont know what we can do only wait. I have contacted to origional solicitors and they have sent me a copy of the cheques and when Palmera cashes them, but if that money ever got to Urbasa only they know

I bought 2 apts from Urbasa, Edificio Amarion back in back in early 2004.  Delay of completion is now over a year.  I met iJuly last year with Jose Antonia Ariaza Managing Director of Grupo Urbasa (one of the owners together with her sister Dolores Ariza) in their offices in Elche as I wanted my money back as per contract in the light of the great delay in completion.  Still have not got my money back despite of my almost weekly calls.  I have now put the matter in the hands of my Spanish lawyer.  To give you a bit more info, I have also spoken this week with the Ayuntamiento (Town Hall) to stablish whether perhaps they have stopped progression of building, but this is not the case, as I have been told again that Urbasa have internal problems one of them being  the site manager left over 1 year ago with his crew and they cannot get credit from the banks (my theory is that our deposits were spent in initiating other buildings and things got out of hand).  The rumour in Almoradid is that Grupo Urbasa has done "suspension de pagos" that is bankrupt.  My Spanish lawyer already sent Urbasa a burofax before Easter this year legally requesting devolution of my moneys due to breachh of contract - we got no reply at all.  He has now sent a burofax to Banco Pastor who is the financing body of Amarion III  and many others in that area.  Our hope is that either the bank or Urbasa's insurance company should be backing up our moneys (according to a Spanish law passed back in 1967). We still waiting the ban's response.  I have been advised by my lawyer that if we do not get a positive response from banco Pastor the only way forward is to go to the tribunal court via penal.  This will have to be handled by a lawyer based in Alicante.  My lawyer has also mentioned that a joint case would be more powerful that  individual ones, no need to mention that share of  costs incurred by lawyers and the court would be lesser.  We have a pretty nasty scenario here and will take months to resolve - not necesarily to a positive one.

My hope is to get in touch with as many of you as possible.

SMC

Hi all

just got back from spain Amarion is just the same the crane is missing and nothing else as happened

the office in almoradi is closed and it is now a completly different shop

Hi SMC

You can count me in if thats what is required, and I think it will be. The more of us that can get together the better it will be for us all in the long run. The property itself must be worth quite a bit, as its about 90% finished. If we can gather enough support, a larger group of crediters has a better chance of getting a result.

Hello RefFonz,

thanks for your reply - could I ask you who did you buy the apt from?\Was it direct from Urbasa? Did you give the deposit to Urbasa through Banco Pastor?  In my case, I bought the apts direct from Urbasa and payments were direct to Banco Pastor.  The reason for these ?s is that I have noticed that some of you mention Palmeral Properties? Who are they?

Best regards,

SMC

Hi Again,

like most of us I think, I bought the property through Palmera Properties. They were in Alicante, but have closed that office. I payed the deposite plus fees through a solicitor in Alicante. They have sent me statments to say that the money went to Palmera Properties. From there the dispute is who got what. As far as I can see Urbasa signed my contract to say that they recieved the deposit, but the internal audit said that they never recieved a penny. If I have a contract from Urbasa then thats the one I will go off.

Hi Redfonz

you may have a problem there and so may others without propper proof that urbasa as got your money

you may be a bit stuck my solicitor wanted writen details of who had my money and how much

without this he wouldnt take them to court 

the contract was not enough, i had to get emails from urbasa and anything that was writen that would help the case

Hi Redfonz,

now I don't know who your fight is against, it seems that Palmera Prop.  did not pass on to Urbasa all your moneys. I will mention this to my Spanish lawyer and find out if you can go direct to Urbasa.

Has all of you bought the apts in Amarion III thr'ough Palmera Prop.?

SMC

Hi SMC

No not all but most is through palmera