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14 Nov 2010 12:00 AM by madjohnnyuk Star rating. 5 posts Send private message

 I am new to this website having read through the threads, im hoping to get some honest advice from home owners on camposol.My wife and I are looking to purchase a property  on d sector of camposol, we are looking to move to camposol before christmas and have a property in mind, however i have now read of possible flooding on d sector? and that the deeds may never be avaliable for these properties? we dont mind playing the waiting game for deeds as it will be our home hopefuly for years to come, not an investment as such...but as we have no family or friends on camposol we would be very grateful for any advice or helpful links for information. thank you in advance for any help and advice you may offer , good people of camposol!

all the best john.





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14 Nov 2010 2:14 PM by moggy Star rating. 58 posts Send private message

Hi John,please could you give a bit more info.

What poliygonoe on D are you buying on.Can I be cheeky and ask your age,what are your interests,do you have transport,may be able to give you more advice then.Maureen.





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14 Nov 2010 2:49 PM by madjohnnyuk Star rating. 5 posts Send private message

Hi Maureen,

thank you for your reply....

 I am fairly certain its d23 but will confirm, as for us, iam in my forties and my wife in the fifties! We love going for nice walks (we have an old english sheepdog) pub quiz and karaoke, and enjoy general socialising , having worked 6 and 7 day weeks we are after sunshine and relaxation. We have our own transport and are looking forward to exploring spain,   

 



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14 Nov 2010 3:16 PM by moggy Star rating. 58 posts Send private message

Hi John. We live on D23.we have been here 5 years and love it.I wont dwell on the negative as im sure thats not really what you want to hear,I will just say our house is still standing and we have never had a problem with flooding.

You will be spoilt for choice if you like quizes,there is a different one on every night of the week in the local bars,we quiz at least twice a week.The same applies to Karaoke.There is also free entertainment on most nights in the local area.We have a very good Golf Club,we dont play but the club house has a good social calender.

We run a walking  group, the walks are in the local area and the views are stunning.We are a fairly hardy group but there are lots of areas for dog walking and gentle walks.

Tha activities are really to numerous to mention,we never have a dull moment.We also have a D sector Gardening and social group which is open to all residents on D.

I will give you the web site addresses of 2 sites worth looking at.

www. welcomegroupspain.com.

www simply networking.e.s

They contain lots of information.Hope they are of some help to you.There is so much to do here if you are prepared  to go out and find it.The people are lovely,and while Camposol is not perfect yet.life for us at the moment is not far off.Maureen





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14 Nov 2010 3:39 PM by madjohnnyuk Star rating. 5 posts Send private message

 thank you for your reply Maureen,

It is so nice to hear positive comments. Searching the web for info all you seem to get is negativity, usualy from non residents! 

We will be purchasing the property without escurita, and hope that once massa have finished the area (hopefuly in the near future!) 

we will be able to buy then.  as i explained earlier we will be living in the property ourselves , so dont mind playing the waiting game. From pictures ive seen the area looks beautiful, and we are looking forward to enjoying the lifestyle you are lucky enough to be enjoying,

best wishes john.





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15 Nov 2010 7:37 PM by tteedd Star rating in Hertfordshire & Punt.... 990 posts Send private message

 Hi 

 

Sorry for being a wet blanket but it really inadvisable to buy any property in Spain without an Escritura (nota simpla from the notary). It is not yours until you have one. A property without an escritura still belongs to the developer or someone further up the chain. If the developer goes bust your property is an asset that may belong to the builders creditors. Preferably you need a 'cert de habilitude' as well. Get a good lawyer by recommendation and preferably out of the area before you commit any money. 

I have a friend who bought about 10 years ago and is stuck. He wanted to go back to the UK 6 years ago and cannot sell as he has no escritura. There are worse stories but I do not have personal experience.

Having lived in the area, if I wanted to buy on Camposol, I would only buy on sector A. Each sector from a to d is less appealing to me and sector D is a long way from anywhere if you do not drive or become ill.

Of choice the best place to live is in the Peurto, if you want to be in Mazarron. It is warmer by the sea and that is what most of us go to Spain for. In addition it has all the facilities you might need and a health centre. It is also easy to rent if you want to go away and a good place for relatives to come on holiday.

Having said all that we have friends and a relative who either live on or have holiday places on Camposol and like it. It helps a lot if you play golf.

 

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15 Nov 2010 8:14 PM by moggy Star rating. 58 posts Send private message

Hi Ted,yes I do agree with you to take care at the moment not to buy a property without the Escriture.When we bought off plan 10 years ago and moved on to D 5 years ago we didnt realise the problems that we know have regarding our deeds.But a lot of the houses have their deeds so it really is a case if you are buying now to check this out.

I dont think people should be put of buying on D,yes you do need a car as it is a good 45min walk to the shops,but it is only 5 mins in the car to the commercial centre,and yes if we were buying now i would probably look at Csector.But while we have good health and one of us can drive we love it here on D.May be the port is for when we get a little bit older.

Any one buying at the moment are in a good position,the prices are good,and they is a lot more information regarding each sector,which was not available 10 years ago.

So really any one buying now do your homework,may be rent,but make sure were every you go on Camposol it is the right place for your needs.Its not perfect,but then is any were even in England,it is what you make of it that counts.We love it and only hope we can enjoy it for years to come.Maureen





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16 Nov 2010 2:11 PM by madjohnnyuk Star rating. 5 posts Send private message

 Most of the properties we have been looking at seem to state "awaiting papers" ect. From what i can gather a lot of properties in camposol do not have there escuritas due to massa not completing the work competely  but we have been advised by estate agents there that they are now back on site? completing work? Could someone please advise me more regarding the deeds, will they become avaliable at some point? and is there a genuine risk that the property could be taken off us even if we brought it from someone else? thanks in advance for any replies, john.





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16 Nov 2010 3:15 PM by Franny Star rating. 13 posts Send private message

I would feel happier buying a property with title deeds, although I do think it´s only a matter of time before all properties will have these. It just depends whether you don´t mind the extra worry of if and when. I would also advise buying a property with the correct planning permission. So many people have built extra rooms,etc, without planning, and with the current economic crisis affecting ayuntamientos, it is only a matter of time before they realise there is a gold mine of fines waiting for them. I´m told that in some areas, including parts of Camposol, they´ve already started on this road, although I don´t know anyone personally.





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16 Nov 2010 4:59 PM by Hammer100 Star rating in Camposol, Mazarron. 94 posts Send private message

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Hi John,

I am not sure where the Estate Agent got their information from about Masa coming back to finish things off. I do know that a few weeks back when they were repairing the bridge that was damaged in the storm they repaired a section of road on the way to sector D but that was only dumping some excess concrete into a hole. Masa are still around so to speak but I have not heard of them actually working on anything but I could be wrong.

According to another site the council are planning to repair the main road leading up to sector D so that is a start.

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26 Apr 2013 9:21 AM by baz1946 Star rating. 2327 posts Send private message

I just don't get your post, you say you are buying a house with no deeds because others are in the same boat and an estate agent says they will come, what does an estate agent know? they might not even be in business a few months time.

You also say you don't mind playing the waiting game because this house is going to be your home for years to come, have you thought that with no deeds it's possible it wont be yours. If you should have problems in the future over this lack of deeds which might, or might not turn up, how are you going to explain to any solicitor that you bought without deeds, and now we have a problem.

Would you buy a house in your home country with no deeds? if no, then why buy in a strange country, and as you might get to find out Spain is a strange country when it comes to who owns what.

Isn't Camposol one of the main area's that   "Holiday Homes from hell"  did a TV programme about?...Or am i wrong on that.





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26 Apr 2013 10:59 AM by moggy Star rating. 58 posts Send private message

Well John from some one who has lived on Camposol for the last 8 years I would seiously advise you not to purchase a house without deeds.When we bought in 2002 we wre told not to worry you will get your deeds in time,so no undue worries.We then found out just before xmas our whole polyigones had had 9 embargoes placed on it by the courts,basically without boring you with a long story,without deeds legally the house belongs to the builder not us so it could be reclaimed if he ever goes bankrupt to pay debts.also the people on the embargos may have a claim in the courts to get money owed to them.

If we do get our deeds the embargos may still be on it and the debt becomes our and you really do not want to know how much that is.We are in the middle of trying to sort it out,but the cost depending who you deal with could be betweeb4,000-13,000€.

As I say we have lived here 8 years we love our house,we love our live style and to be honest problems and all we love Camposol,so we are just waiting to see what happens.

 

But if we were buying for the first time where ever in Spain,my advice DO NOT BUY ANY WERE WITHOUT DEEDS AND MAKE SURE THERE IS NO DEBT ATTACHED TO THE PROPERTY.





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26 Apr 2013 11:39 AM by baz1946 Star rating. 2327 posts Send private message

I have owned a few houses in Spain over the past years, but have never bought a new build, as in me being the first owner, or one that has not been built, or one on the strength of what will be built, or one you call of-plan...A picture of what you "Might" get, so my question is and it might be a stupid one at that....

 Don't you get the deeds,  a copy of them,  or get to see them,  or even your solicitor see them on these new build houses.

When i have bought house's, second hand if you like, my solicitor will not hand over any deposit i have paid...and i have never paid yet the 10% the seller has asked for....until she has seen the deeds, read the deeds, did what ever she has had to do with them, and told me all is okay.

What on earth is going on with people who keep coming on here with these massive house money problems, we are not talking about 200€ for a fridge that don't turn up, it's life changing amounts, and it's not that Spain hasn't had enough bad publicity about this sort of thing over the years. 

The short of it is, how and why do people hand over money for something that is not 100% kosher. Wish these same people would spend thousands with me on a promise i would deliver, i am English and it don't happen....But they give to a foreign person without a second thought...So it seems.





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30 Apr 2013 9:44 AM by georgia Star rating in Algorfa (As seen on .... 1835 posts Send private message

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30 Apr 2013 9:46 AM by georgia Star rating in Algorfa (As seen on .... 1835 posts Send private message

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 and now this....

car was brocken into last hour stereo gone and ipod tomtom car was right out side house camposol the low lifes that are around

seems there is a little spree going on?!

 



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30 Apr 2013 5:37 PM by tamaraessex Star rating in Colmenar, Malaga. 508 posts Send private message

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Hi MadJohnny - well the general consensus seems to be that you are living up to your name! Sorry - couldn't resist that! My two pennorth would be that there are something like a million houses for sale in Spain at the moment. So why on earth pick one of the minority where you KNOW there's a problem even before you move in? There are plenty of estate agents around who don't even take houses onto their books unless ALL the paperwork is in order. Or perhaps find a lawyer first, who might point you from their experience at urbanisations which DO have paperwork in place. Or buy a village house that has all its paperwork. Well, no, if you are interested in Camposol then it's probably a resort urbanisation that you want. So find one with escritura! There MUST be some, aren't there? And surely they are pretty much all the same .....? Pool, gardens, flats or houses, administrator, charges, meetings, shared wi-fi, shared satellite TV? I ahve no idea, I don't live on one. But my point is, don't buy something when you KNOW the papers ain't right.

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30 Apr 2013 6:52 PM by Kathyslad Star rating. 329 posts Send private message

Well as Madjohnny only made 5 posts in 2 days, and his last post was November 2010' I don 't think he's really interested anymore. My guess is he's either bought it, and is now regretting it, or he heeded the good advice early on.



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30 Apr 2013 7:24 PM by tamaraessex Star rating in Colmenar, Malaga. 508 posts Send private message

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Oops! Yes you're right Kathyslad. Who revived this ancient thread? Oh it was Baz :-(

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30 Apr 2013 9:04 PM by baz1946 Star rating. 2327 posts Send private message

Oops! Yes you're right Kathyslad. Who revived this ancient thread? Oh it was Baz :-(

 

Oh come on now Ladies gimme a break, i might have replied to an old thread about someone buying a house with no deeds, but it wasn't me that has mentioned my stolen cars or nicked radio in the same breath as a "House with no deeds" 





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30 Apr 2013 9:11 PM by tamaraessex Star rating in Colmenar, Malaga. 508 posts Send private message

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Now y'all have to stop calling Kathy's Lad a girl. He doesn't like it. He's not called Kathy, he's called Kathy's Lad, but he hasn't used a space or an apostrophe.

I think this thread is dead, don't you?

Night night.

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