El Pinet

I'm sure Vivendoo and the commitee have got this under control and will inform us in due coarse.

Shame the campers want be able to use the swimming pools.

Any news on the community charge?

The entrances are on the left, traffic through the estate

It is over 122, 000 sq metres

This message was last edited by dbr on 08/08/2011.

This message was last edited by dbr on 08/08/2011.

 Hi dbr,

Have seen any plans for the new properties by the new builder that has a board up to the front of the site?

Hi all,

I had a meeting yesterday with a company in Alicante with regard to the going ons at El Pinet/San Jose. I have been aviced that to be asked to pay for a community fee on a site that has not been handed over to the residents from the builder is illegal and that without COH the properties should not be used.

I was also adviced that without the COH I should not be paying any SUMA on the property and that I can now claim any payments back

as I have not furnished or used my villa yet in acordence with Spanish law 

Has everyone received their invoices for SUMA from 2006 onwards. I finally received one large invoice for the last 5 years...with interest. I have queried this through my lawyer.

I have been paying mine for about three years now ( via my solicitor ).

Thanks for the info on both subjects Billyboy

Just received my bill for 2010/ 2011 for electric and water that I have not used. Maybe its now time that the people who are not going to pay join together and instruct a solicitor to fight this.

PM me with your thoughts 

My understanding is that if you are the legal owner of a property in Spain you are still liable for suma Spanish Yearly property tax(IBI) whether you have lived in it or not.

House-owners are also required to pay an annual charge for refuse collection etc. Is this what you are referring to when you talk about a refund?

Just had my bill for July 3/7/2011 - 6/8/2011 - Water = zero, electricity €8.65 ( alarm & fridge only left on ).

Current situation with the developer San Jose. Approximate build

Has anyone noticed that we are being charged twice for the electric and water. 

I have an electric/water bill  for what I have used during July (and rightly so)

Yet I have a demand for 100/150e community fee for July which includes 80/130e towards electric and water that I have not used, taking off the original community fee of 20e 

Irregular  internet access has limited my input!!!!

From what I read into the 'bills'.

The  €42 includes the payers , paying off the non payers  debts  as they see it...I know its crap it is still the SJ account. ,  That is just as UNFAIR as the Non res paying for the residents. It will be very interesting to see the comparative figures,

As I understand the 'ES' crowd still contribute nothing'.

 it is €7 just  to have your meter read?. Nice one € 2100 for a days work

I will do it for 1800 inc monthly flight

I will read them for 1200e a month and still get down to the beach in the morning LOL

Hi Gringo,

I need to check the email again from Vivendoo but I think you are right in what you are saying.

I also think its wrong we should be paying for those who haven't payed, what ever their nationality!!

 The July payment is for June bills.  Meter readings are for usage in July.  Debtors still own their debts.

Thanks for that info CeeJay

But why are us, the non debtors picking up the debts of others. What ever their nationality?

CEEJAY,

You are wrong......My bill has six increased payments starting in Feburary and ending in July a total of 600e which by the way I am not going to pay. I also have a bill for electric and water dated 06/07/2011 - 03/08/2011 which I will pay.

That is paying for the services twice in July.

If people that live at El Pinet think that I am going to pay for their electric and water that they have used, then think again. 

                                                             YOU ARE A BUNCH OF CROOKS

                               AND YOU 9_PALMS YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE NON PAYERS 

                               ********* YOU ARE PAYING FOR WHAT YOU HAVE USED************

Im suprised that you have not sent us the bills for your air con and private swimming pools to be fitted, seeing that you expect us to pay for the running costs.

Hi Gringo,

I see where you are coming from but like yourself, I was refuring to the community charge going to pay for the outstanding short fall. This being use of electric and water, as I don't go out there I am annoyed at the amount.

Having seen my new electric and water bills, I can see who will have to pay the extra money. If any of my bills shows usage when I'm not there I will want to know why!

What I think will be the most interesting set of figures is the overall consumption now the meters are in the properties,  then remember how many people live there and the disproportionate use. I hear that the air cons are almost silent.

Does anyone have the details of how  'the community'  was formed and the constitution?

May well be needed in 5 / 6 years when they get us to court, 

Does this mean all get one paid for by whom?

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''The installation meter fee is a community fee approved at the General Meeting.''