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03 Mar 2011 6:39 PM by Vagabond Star rating. 54 forum posts Send private message

Just returned to the U.K. after two weeks in El Pinet.

Slight hiccup over the past few days. Once again the Apartments have been without electricy due to a fault (nothing to do with unpaid bills this time).

At the same time rather galling to walk round some of the unoccupied villas to hear the chug chug of the filters starting up in the swimming pools!!

Fingers crossed we should be hearing some good news in the near future.

 


 



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14 Mar 2011 1:22 AM by victor meldrew Star rating. 185 forum posts Send private message

By now work should be progressing well. Is it?


 



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14 Mar 2011 1:32 AM by victor meldrew Star rating. 185 forum posts Send private message

By now work should be progressing well. However as I have not heard anything I assume NOT.


 



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20 Mar 2011 11:44 PM by victor meldrew Star rating. 185 forum posts Send private message

Back here in our darling U.K. we have Clegg and Cameron discussing AV or PR. Should the owners of EP properties not adopt such a system when we are legal.  PR ---- proportional representation.

 

At the moment a few dictatorial residents ( who should not be there) are trying to call the shots.




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27 Mar 2011 12:22 AM by Rason Star rating. 29 forum posts Send private message

 The owners of EP properties be they resident , owners not in residence, renting or not ( Spanish officialdom will class you ALL as renting whether you are or not  ) therefore you  are all in the same boat and what SARC is doing affects  all of you .

 What you are trying to achieve at  El Pinet is great but what SARC are doing is not compatible  the objective is quite different. 

Be very  careful SARC are destroying everything you have achieved

Owners refusing to complete  on illegalities re no COH   are in a good position and should be  pushing their position  . Who is telling you not to push legally against the company .Who is telling you not to push .Anyone on El Pinet without a certificate can take legal action against the builder  even if they have already completed without a COH  the law is on your side .Why are you not doing this you could get a full repayment of all you have paid  .  SJ are  the wrong doers in this and have sold you illegal properties !!!!  Enough Already Stop this now .They are still selling properties that  will never be built on developments that will never be finished.Enough is enough . Stop the crooks

El Pinet should be allowed to flourish because it exists and is a community   .The builds SARC support do not exist and are not communities yet they support these builds to the detriment of existing communities like El Pinet .Please do not be fooled  .


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30 Mar 2011 3:49 PM by 9_Palms Star rating. 214 forum posts Send private message

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One thing with the SARC web site is its not asking anyone for sums of money to pay a community charge for water and electric (SJ - CAM fee's). Also there's no talk of legal action against anyone either!!



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31 Mar 2011 10:42 PM by victor meldrew Star rating. 185 forum posts Send private message

Anything happened yet?




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01 Apr 2011 12:24 AM by Rason Star rating. 29 forum posts Send private message

Very true 9palms SARC  are not asking for money ( no  payment in return for  your slience perhaps ) but they are selling all of you right down the river .  Brain to manual  9 palms . Please ! Can you not see ?




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01 Apr 2011 12:35 AM by victor meldrew Star rating. 185 forum posts Send private message

I struggle to see what 'we' at EP have achieved. No CoH years down the line. Paying someone elses bills. Sweet nothing else.

Unless its the formation of        NEW   COMMUNISM.  Perhaps  El Gordo could be the leader with Ed Ballso as the deputy




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07 Apr 2011 10:20 PM by victor meldrew Star rating. 185 forum posts Send private message

Secret meetings.   They still don't get it, do they. Still making decisions that are trying to give away our RIGHTS. Will not work

Alec Aspden  informed the committee that he and Bo have met with a company, based in the UK, who specialise in the collection of community fees from debtors based anywhere in the European community, with the exception of Spain, under a European Directive. Costs of collection are met by the debtors and any monies are sent direct to the community accounts not through their account. We will pursue this further as it appears to be an excellent way of recovering fees.
 
So which court is going to order you to pay for something you have not had. The hospital really has been cleared.


 



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08 Apr 2011 2:26 PM by 9_Palms Star rating. 214 forum posts Send private message

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I think they are supposed to be having or had an officially site meeting. Iberdrola - SJ?



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09 Apr 2011 12:54 AM by victor meldrew Star rating. 185 forum posts Send private message

Now i hear they are on about private meters for the electricity. Illegal to resell builders supply. Disconections for non payment.  Hope their legal cover is better than good.

7 people trying to make decisions for us all.....mainly self interest I suspect




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10 Apr 2011 6:45 PM by leomack Star rating. 35 forum posts Send private message

Hi,

out in EP next week to hopefully find some signs of progress!!!

While I am on, has anyone got an apartment or villa to rent the first week in august or my daughter and family?

cheers,

leo.mccormack@btinternet.com

 




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10 Apr 2011 7:09 PM by 9_Palms Star rating. 214 forum posts Send private message

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Hi Leo,

I know someone over in M5 that has a villa. if they haven't sold it. I will get them to contact you.



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12 Apr 2011 10:35 AM by 9_Palms Star rating. 214 forum posts Send private message

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For those who haven't seen this on the EP site.

Report on Committee Meeting held on Monday 4th April 2011 at El Pinet

Present:- Bo Gottschalk; Alec Aspden; Francisco Mas Riquelme; Francisco Llopis Sempere: Michael Kilburn; Cherry Lewis: Pat Parkes.

The purpose of the meeting was to find out what information had been obtained from Elche Council in the previous meetings with our Spanish colleagues on the committee.

These meetings (4 number) had been held over the previous 4/5 weeks. Unfortunately nothing concrete was obtained and we are still no closer to knowing when we are likely to receive our Habitation Certificates. The council are very busy at this time with the forthcoming May elections.!

The two main stumbling blocks appear to be the pending transfer of a section of our site M19 into the ownership of Elche from San Jose Group (which we have been informed is proceeding) and the planning and installation of the new electricity cable capable of supplying the required power to the whole of the site including the unfinished properties. Iberdrola have informed us that everything is in place to enable them to undertake this work but that they require the go-ahead from Elche!

San Jose will also need to be back on site to continue their works part of which will be to construct a new sub-station for the site.

San Jose will be clear of administration at the end of this month and we await with fingers crossed their appearance on site.

We also have other developers waiting to start on site. We will provide further details of this when we can.

The committee then discussed the possibility of installing our own meters on site such that owners will then only pay for the standing charge and the electric used.

An information meeting is to be held tomorrow on site with owners present at which our Administrator will outline a possible scheme.

A Aspden then outlined discussions he and Bo have held with another company of Administrators who have said that they will install meters for us, read them, prepare bills and also open an office here on site for the benefit of owners. We have asked them to prepare a more detailed presentation which will include contact numbers of urbanisations where they have said they have done this previously.

A Aspden then informed the committee that himself and Bo have met with a company, based in the UK, who specialise in the collection of community fees from debtors based anywhere in the European community, with the exception of Spain, under a European Directive. Costs of collection are met by the debtors and any monies are sent direct to the community accounts not through their account. We will pursue this further as it appears to be an excellent way of recovering fees.

Post Meeting Note

The on- site meeting was held on Wednesday morning outside the Sales office and was well attended by owners. Our Administrator, Francisco Moreno, outlined a scheme where we could

install electric meters of the correct standard on the properties and these would have to be read by committee members on a monthly basis. The standing charge and the charge for electricity used could possibly be added to community bills sent out monthly. Non payment would result in disconnections. A further meeting is to be called at which more precise details can be outlined, suggestions taken, and voted on.

We believe that we can no longer wait for the relevant authorities to act and that we must instigate a course of action leading to a system of meters which will enable owners to pay for what they use individually. We can then set, as individual communities, a charge for maintaining our communities and paying for the swimming pools, street and tower lighting and water pumps. This would then become our community fee to be paid by all.

The Committee

El Pinet 6

th April 2011



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13 Apr 2011 12:28 AM by victor meldrew Star rating. 185 forum posts Send private message

How deep are they trying to dig, The Chilean miners were an easier rescue.

Lets hope the 7 read this and can tell us:

Who gave them the authority to 'deal' on everyone elses 'behalf, (They were illegal...what made them legal...who voted?)

The right to set up a 'community'.  

What  are our alleged ' rules' and who if anybody other than ' THE COMMITTEE'  agreed to those.

For the future what the limits of any elected  community comittee are or do they think it is open access to our money?

Get the axes out  people, if you are being taken for a mug. A wooden handled axe through a thick black wire..............

Become a Greek!

As this is an edit, I must apologise to Vagabond for being boring, but I am a John Bishop compared to the reports of the 7!

  


 



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13 Apr 2011 5:21 PM by Vagabond Star rating. 54 forum posts Send private message

 

Victor,

Some of your earlier postings were quite rational but sorry to say in my opinion you are now becoming very boring.

Whatever you might say the Committee is legal and are doing all they can to resolve the problems on behalf of all of us.

Hope your return  to the  U.K. went well !!


 



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13 Apr 2011 11:14 PM by victor meldrew Star rating. 185 forum posts Send private message

 Vagabond.

Boring, mmm but accurate.

enough said.




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14 Apr 2011 6:09 PM by ugraag Star rating. 3 forum posts Send private message

I recently inherited a property on El Pinet from an Aunt who passed away suddenly in 2010.

I had to sell it as couldnt afford the mortgage payments, nor the enormous inheritance tax bill. It was priced for a quick sale, much less than she paid for it, but enough to just about cover all of our costs.

One thing to note - you have to pay the community charges if you want to sell the property - there is no getting away from it. For the sake of any of your descendants, even if you dont want to pay the community charges to the community, stick the money somewhere else so they dont get stuck with trying to find additional cash during what is already a really stressful time.

I do feel really sorry for everyone who has invested in the development, as it has so much potential, which hasnt been fulfilled, but from experience, these community fees will have to be paid at some point by someone...




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14 Apr 2011 10:00 PM by victor meldrew Star rating. 185 forum posts Send private message

Sorry to hear of your loss.

Agreed.

Community charges DO have to be by everyone. I for one have never disputed that. What I have always said and most by their actions agree (some 75% refusing to pay), is that we will not pay for things that are not 'comunal or our debts.

Non payers are described as debtors.....but they are not.

We all had contracts with a builder who experienced difficulties and breached those contracts. It was they who chose not to build the infrastucture first, which did not help matters. Politics made it even worse. Now the builder is coming out of administration will we see them honouring their obligations?

I really do hope that this round of promises are better than the broken promises of the last four / five years. I am by nature optimistic, but when you have been LIED to time after time...its now when I see it I will believe it.

When it is legal to live there, When it is legal to have a community.

I will start paying once again. I did once upon a time to help out on the understanding coh were coming in January!




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