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Madam Meg. You are in the minority on here and have intelligence and a brain, use it and don't send your email address. You will probably be spammed beyond belief. Isn't that what the iffy agents used to do?

Remember, it is just a couple of months ago that someone on ere was complaining of being caught out on their dreams. Now a few weeks later they are the experts and can advise.

To Dave, as you are promoting and trying to lure purchasers, can you tell me if your business hold proffesional indemnity cover?
Hope you know what that is.

Which developer's developments are you promoting on your website?

If this deal is truly a way out for purchasers and is completey above board I see no reason why the details of how it works  can not be posted on the forum for all to see .The fact that no one is willing to explain exactly how it works makes it look dodgy .As Dave has stated I did request further details and recieved them some time ago it was only a minimal explanation with no real details.To get further details it was suggested I would have to go over to Spain. I unlike Nigel would require more details before wasting any more time chasing rainbows on the suggestion of sales people with their own interests at heart .So come on if this is a grrrrrrrreat  ! deal lets hear the details on the open forum .  Posting the details of how these deals work does not break forum rules as long as no links , contact details or company names are mentioned  so lets hear it ! MM

Typical magical Meg. She expects truth, honesty and things to be above board.
how do you expect people to flog things to us Brits ?

Some people just dont want to be helped!!!

I have nothing to gain from any of this neither does Laird Dave, we are both in the same boat as everyone else buying into SADM with HDT \ SJ and being hung out to dry by the Concurso, where you will recieve nowt.

How could this possibly be a scam, you both want your heads testing.

"How could this possibly be a scam"
So why ask the question if you are certain it is not?

"How could this possibly be a scam"
Did anyone ask that question before parting with money for SADM?
Remember 12 to 24 months ago when questions were asked on here and many of those who have lost or will lose money shouted down those asking questions and offering advice.
Good luck and hope you enjoyed your money when you had it.

"Laird Dave", wise man, follow his every move without questioning,

"where you will recieve nowt."
But you will not worry about that now because all is well, watertight, foolproof, 100% certain and whatever else "Laird Dave" tells you.
Hope that he will be your keyholder, window cleaner and arrange airport runs for you as advertised (and all for nothing, as always).

Nigel why not post the details then to help others I don't understand the reluctance of  your self and Dave  to explain  the details  it does not make sense .If there is nothing to hide  then explain how it  all works  ?  Seriously I would like to understand how it works  and I am sure others would too .If it can get anyone else out of this mess then go for it and post the details .

Did you discuss the handing over of your contract with SJ did they agree ,did you need to get a lawyer to resolve and release you from your contract,did SJ agree to re do new  contracts on your original property changing it from your name to  Maher ? Did SJ tell you this was OK and release you from  the obligation of your original property in the unlikely event that it is ever completed ? did you check all this out ?. It would surprise me if SJ did any thing at all along these lines  to help purchasers ,it would be completely out of character and a  complete turn around from their usual behaviour . I would genuinely like to know the ins and outs of the deal .Cheers MM

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To FIN

In answer to your questions:

"Hope that he will be your keyholder, window cleaner and arrange airport runs for you as advertised (and all for nothing, as always)."

Of course I hope that people will employ our company, but for nothing I'm afraid not, our prices are available to those that wish  to know. Please continue to promote our business, your doing a great job!!

"To Dave, as you are promoting and trying to lure purchasers, can you tell me if your business hold proffesional indemnity cover?
Hope you know what that is".

Yes it does and Yes I know what it is having been in business for the last 15 years.

"Which developer's developments are you promoting on your website?"

None.

"Can we take it that "Dave" has now risen to be an expert on "the financial low down". I don't suppose he has ever been involved in a deal where he stood to lose money on a property."

Never said I was an expert on Finances. No I haven't lost any money on a property including Santa Ana Del Monte, I was informed & intelligent enough to ensure my deposit was covered by a bank guarentee.

To MM

Why didn't you ask any of your sensible questions before?  Why did you just slag me off as a con merchant? Other people asked the same questions you are now asking and they were given the relevant information requested. You asked me originally, and I quote direct from your PM

"Hi Dave could you send me some more details on the Tulipans  .I dont know the area at all so any additional info on location would also be good . cheers MM"

This was the information I sent to you and your last PM was, I quote

"Thanks for the info Dave I will take a look at my options.Cheers MM"

So this statement by you is uncalled for,

"I unlike Nigel would require more details before wasting any more time chasing rainbows on the suggestion of sales people with their own interests at heart .So come on if this is a grrrrrrrreat  ! deal lets hear the details on the open forum . "

As far as discussing peoples personal requests on an open forum, NO I will not. Each persons financial details regarding deposits and transferring  deposits to another property are exactly that PERSONAL and I would never disclose on an open forum. I stand by my original post in that should anyone which to learn details of an available, transfer of deposit to a key ready and legal property property, which has been sanctioned by the administrators and has already taken place for a number of people that originally bought at Jumilla please PM me.

Hope this clears up a few points for people.

Cheers

Dave

Aka "Laird Dave of Lochaber" a title bought  quite legitamately as a joke but which some posters on here seem to miss.

"Yes it does and Yes I know what it is having been in business for the last 15 years."
Obviously a mistake, as one of the major insurers have never heard of your business, therefore, would not guarantee cover in the event of keys being left with businesses not recognised by them, which you will be aware is often the norm with reputable insurers.

"None."
Not even links?

"I was informed & intelligent enough to ensure my deposit was covered by a bank guarentee.
So, you have had your money back via the BG, as have many others?

"I was informed & intelligent enough"
Unlike the unintelligent who did not have a guarantee. Is that what you are claiming?
Those unintelligent you are leading up a blind alley?

"As far as discussing peoples personal requests on an open forum"
Surprising that an Informed, intelligent, established businessman doesn't have the sense to realise he would not have to disclose personal information and could always refer to Mr X invested Y Euros.
 

True to form I suppose.

Dave I am not asking you to reveal any one's personal details just details of how this deal works .Once again your refusal to do this leads me to believe there is something to hide .

In more ways than one you are beginning to sound  like the SARC idiots .Why the secrecy  post  the details for all to see !

Posting the  private content of  my  PMs  tut tut , and you expect me to trust what you tell me about this deal . I could post the answer to my request where it is  clear that in order  to find out more a  visit  to  Spain  was required . Sorry Dave but I have been there and have no wish to encounter the lies and hard sell tactics of unscrupulous agents again .

Once again why the secrecy .If it is sooooo good a deal and  helpful to other purchasers in this dreadful mess  then post the details of the deal and how it works in the wider legal context regarding contracts etc  .

Please post the details and let people decide  for themselves .No need to break any one's trust by giving out personal info (we will forget that you broke mine by posting contents of a PM ie PRIVATE MESSAGE )

Perhaps you are afraid the details of the deal  will not stand up to the scrutiny of the various professionals lawyers etc who use  EOS  regularly .

Whats it to be Dave?  we have been posting all day and we are no further forward regards the nitty gritty of this great deal  .

In answer to your  question as to why I didn't ask my "sensible questions " before now  . I did . I asked four very experienced and professional property / litigation lawyers both in the UK and Spain and they all  told me not to touch it with a barge pole . Well I am hardly likely to ask the agent selling the properties my sensible questions am I ? Not if I want an honest answer !

As for the title you bought as a joke .I would suggest you also check out the legitimacy of this as I suspect the real Laird of Lochaber may have something to say on this matter ! MM

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Nigel there are forums on EOS for Playa Golf  1,2 and 3 .I suggest you read them . Is this really what you want ? You really have done your research  ! Good Luck  !

" Aka "Laird Dave of Lochaber" a title bought  quite legitamately as a joke but which some posters on here seem to miss."
Noooo and there was us think it was a genuine title , unlike the deal you seem to be offering.
Would have been money wiser spent if you had bought a book on property dealing.

Laird, bloody Laird

Did you hear about the chap that bought a title so he could perhaps pretend and influence the innocent to part with their money?
 

"As for the title you bought as a joke .I would suggest you also check out the legitimacy of this as I suspect the real Laird of Lochaber may have something to say on this matter ! "
Nah, no need, he is "informed and intelligent" as well as being and experienced business man and as informed by himself (self praise and all that), so he would never get caught out on ANYTHING.

"and I quote direct from your PM"
Laird Dave of Lochaber, he of intelligence. There is a clue in the letters "PM" PRIVATE MESSAGE.
So why are you quoting something which is "Private".
Really a trustworthy businessman eh?

False title, does not keep Private Messages, private.
Anything else you would like to tell us Dave ?

I quote:

" Although I might start refering to myself as Laird Dave of Lochaber has a certain kind of ring to it don't you think!"

Like I said earlier some people just dont want help or cant be helped!

I know this deal is good and a proper sensible way out of the Concurso, which without a bank guarantee you wont see a single cent for at leat 5 years (if ever).

It wont be for everybody but if you want to take advantage or investigate futher then PM Dave or myself and we will put you in contact with the right people.

If you want to continue doing nothing but bitch & trust nothing or no one to safe guard something you dont have then carry on as you are.

I for one will have sorted my SADM mess out in the next 4-5 weeks not 5 Years.

Your call.

FIN  & MM dont bother as I dont think I would want either of you as neighbours the attitude stinks to much.

Quote from Dave's post

"Never said I was an expert on Finances. No I haven't lost any money on a property including Santa Ana Del Monte, I was informed & intelligent enough to ensure my deposit was covered by a bank guarentee."

Can we take it from this that you  are only looking  for  stupid and ill informed people without BGs to take advantage of your grrrrreat  deal Dave ?  That would explain your reluctance to explain it properly on the forum !

Straight from the horses mouth Nigel  ! Lord Dave has chosen you for his deal as you have no BG and are therefore not intelligent or well informed .Perfect fodder for his deal .You say some can not be helped or don't want to be ,look to yourself Nigel  and get an independent  international legal eagle in the uk to take a look at your deal before you sign anything .

Woops ! don't tell me  it is too late and you have already signed !

If you have I hope it all works out for you  I will keep my fingers crossed .MM

For Nigel,

You definitely researched that well run community on Playa golf?

http://www.eyeonspain.com/community-forum/16269/pools-are-closing.aspx

did you smell the stench of sewage when at Playa golf in the summer?

We did and said no thanks and that was before we were quoted around 200,000 euro for the privilige, when resales are actually selling for as little as 100,000 - 120,000euro!!!

So for a lot it would actually make more financial sense to just forget the deposit and look around, buy a resale which will be furnished, air-conned, ( and not conned ) with no more expenditure?

Also unsure whether habitation certificates are in order for this developement?

Just my opinion.

Your thoughts?

"FIN  & MM dont bother as I dont think I would want either of you as neighbours the attitude stinks to much."

Yes, it is strange that some hate the idea of neighbours with common sence, intelligence, honesty and speak the truth. Perhaps it doesn't go down too when they try to lead people up the garden path.

So, 4-5 weeks, then out of the SADM mess ehhh.
Please re-arrange the following words into a well known saying.

the into frying out pan the of and fire

Once a fool always a fool.

Do enjoy the stench of sewage

jaqib at last common sense prevails I am blue in the face trying to explain .As you say it would be better to walk away ,look else where and buy something up to 60% cheaper than when most of us purchased .At least then one could chose an area that is complete and not going to be a building site for years or  be forced into paying huge community charges to finish off developments  or demolish half built eye sores . As for licences  it will not be the first time people have been fobbed of with final building  licences and not licenses of first habitation . Far better to walk away and look else where one Spanish bank was auctioning repo and bust builders  properties  for up to 60% discount  only this week , It really is a no brainer .Sorry Nigel

It is said that many Brits enjoy being part of a queue.
That should be updated to many Brits seem to enjoy being conned.

jaqib, you sure your comments are correct?
This is the development which Laird Dave of Lochaber Big Dave Dave (or whatever name he uses, is trying to persuade people to part with their hard earned cash for and as he is a titled, informed and intelligent (he says so) gentleman, who is an experienced businessman, surely he can't have got it wrong. Next you will be claiming that he has had no worries over recent years regarding what he was buying into, despite hime being informed and intelligent.