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28 Feb 2008 12:00 AM by vista01 Star rating in UK /soon to be Vista.... 17 posts Send private message

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Hello Does anyone have anymore information in regards to confirming Disney owning some land Around Estopona area and the tunnel between Gibraltar and Morocco??? Maria



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28 Feb 2008 10:19 PM by DoubleJ Star rating in Las Alpujarras and L.... 143 posts Send private message

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Hi Maria,

The Disney rumour has been going for years (do a search for "Disney" on this forum to see the range of comments). It looks likely that Disney may be considering a small summer camp style development in this area, but definately nothing like a theme park.

Regarding the proposed tunnel, this is the info I posted in January this year on the Vista Hermosa Development site.

From the look of the report below, it sounds like the powers that be are getting closer to thinking about maybe getting together to possibly start formulating a plan to commence umming and aahhing about provisionally deciding whether to build a tunnel between Spain and Moroccoo.

The fact that it is likely to take over 20 years even after they have decided probably means that we don't need to get too excited about it !! Also, even if it does go ahead, the construction activity is likely to be around Tarifa, ie. not on the beach at La Linea.

2008 looks set to be a significant year for the project to build a railway tunnel under the Gibraltar Strait to link Spain and Morocco. Since 2006 experts have been preparing geological and technical reports which are due to be presented some time this year.

The schedule has been delayed slightly due to the diplomatic crisis between the two countries caused by the King and Queen of Spain’s visit to Ceuta and Melilla last year. As a result the meeting due to take place between the Spanish Development Minister, Magdalena álvarez, and the Moroccan Minister of Transport, Karim Ghellab, in December was postponed. Now, however, the Moroccan ambassador to Spain, Omar Azziman, has returned to Madrid and relations seem to be back to normal.

Salvador de la Encina, a Socialist member of the Spanish Congress and spokesperson for Infrastructure, explained that the technical side was no longer a problem and what concerned the authorities now was the financial issue. The project is expected to cost at minimum 5,000 million euros (some estimate it will be double) and last year both Spain and Morocco applied for aid from the European Union. Financial help has also been sought from other sources such as the World Bank, the European Investment Bank and the Arab Monetary Fund.

The idea of building a tunnel between Spain and Morocco dates back almost 30 years. In 1980 two state companies were created to get the plan off the ground, the SECEG in Spain and the SNED in Morocco, but it wasn’t until 1996 that the first technical report was produced.

In September 2006 an agreement was reached with a consortium formed by four firms - Typsa of Spain, Ingema of Morocco, Geodata of Italy and Lombardi of Switzerland - for the drawing up of the geological and geotechnical reports due to be presented this year.

“Child’s play” was how engineer Giovanni Lombardi described the Eurotunnel linking Britain and France compared with this ambitious scheme. The Italian, now in his eighties, said that the tunnel was “on the verge of the impossible”, but is determined to go ahead with what would be his most difficult project yet. He is well aware that he is unlikely to see it finished; the tunnel is expected to take some 20 years to build.

At present the project envisages a 38.7 kilometre double railway tunnel, of which 27.7 kilometres would be under the sea, between Punta Malabata in Morocco (near Tangier) and Punta Palomas in Spain (near Tarifa).





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29 Feb 2008 9:45 AM by Sonia El Star rating in Wales / Carvajal, F.... 212 posts Send private message

I don't really expect to see this happen anytime soon as both countries don't exactly move with any kind of urgency.

We also wonder how the Moroccan authorities will 'police' it as getting in and out is currently a nightmare with officialdom.  We've given up taking a car over. Last time (about 6/7 years ago) we were kept waiting for over one hour because we wouldn't play ball.  They just waltzed off with the log book. Friends have said it's changed but we're still cynical.  Now travel as foot passengers from Tarifa.

There are a huge number of attempts to enter Spain illegally and we've witnessed guys handcuffed to the ferry decks being sent back - not pleasant. Also know of people who have drowned. Morocco is a poor country compared to Spain and for many their hope of a better life. The UK have problems with the Channel Tunnel but I think this one could be ten times worse.

 





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29 Feb 2008 2:04 PM by bobaol Star rating. 2253 posts Send private message

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Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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29 Feb 2008 2:06 PM by morerosado Star rating. 6927 posts Send private message

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Ditto, Bob, ditto.  Just had another Disney thread started recently to add to all the others.

DISNEY IN SPAIN     Disney Land in Murcia.





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29 Feb 2008 5:59 PM by Rixxy Star rating in San Pedro. 2010 posts Send private message

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PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE! No more Disney - I really cant take it!!!!

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Quite frankly m'dear, I don't give a damn!

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