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16 Sep 2007 12:00 AM by kelju Star rating in South Yorkshire . 302 posts Send private message

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Hello all,

We have plans for our apartment complex in Marina Del Castillo, Duquesa with a 2nd swimming pool clearly marked between the complex and the beach, we have heard that this pool is now not going to be built.

Where does this leave us with regards to completion and the bank guarantee if the pool is not built.

Can we claim a reduction in the purchase price or even pull out of the deal and claim our deposit and expenses back?

Any advice/comments welcomed.

Kelvin

 




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16 Sep 2007 8:27 PM by rowlandsbb Star rating in Gloucestershire &Hue.... 779 posts Send private message

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It may all depend on the wording of your contract and the plans which were a part of it

Ask your lawyer and even the agent who sold you the property  who ' should be giving you an After Sales Client Service'which most good professional agents do provide 

If it is not covered in your contract and you were relying on ' original marketing brochure' and the developers have had to change their proposals  due to the current 'problems' in CDS then you and your agent may be able to negotiate some compensation

it all depends on the contract 



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16 Sep 2007 8:43 PM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9402 posts Send private message

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There are Supreme Court decissions ( source of Law) allowing the cancellation ( money plus legal initerests back)  becasue of the lack of a pool).

Of course any publicity brochure is part of the contract.

 



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16 Sep 2007 9:02 PM by rowlandsbb Star rating in Gloucestershire &Hue.... 779 posts Send private message

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Is that so?

In UK it iscertainly not because there will always be a 'caveat' .....for illustration purposes only or similar!!

And ' subject to contract' so that what you sign for is what  you get!

Interesting 'if all marketing' for the development in Spain is part of your contract'..... does that apply to all ' marketing info' not just property

Eg big plans for Marina de Cope East of Aguilas [ Almeria] now announced and it will be a 15 year development but the first phase buyers will have to accept that over that time plans may change

So you can only be certain by the actual terms in your own contract for what you buy

Is that not the situation? 



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17 Sep 2007 9:45 AM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9402 posts Send private message

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Publicity is part of the contract, according to Consumers Law. I can find you important Court decissions on that if you need them.
And yes, that is not just for real estate but for all the areas of marketing.
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17 Sep 2007 9:55 AM by rowlandsbb Star rating in Gloucestershire &Hue.... 779 posts Send private message

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Thanks

You learn something new everyday

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17 Sep 2007 10:29 AM by kelju Star rating in South Yorkshire . 302 posts Send private message

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Thanks for the replies, I feel better knowing that there are laws in place to protect the sale.  Do you think it wise to wait until the completion of the build or start to make representations now?

Thanks

Kelvin





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17 Sep 2007 11:11 AM by Pitby Star rating in Andalucía. 1904 posts Send private message

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Kelvin

Is that the same Marina del Castillo that Duquesa Golden Mile/Ros y Falcon are developing?

I can tell you that they also planned to abandon a pool in Phase 3 of Duquesa Village, that was on the plans, but so many people complained about it that they changed back to the original plan and are now building the pool.




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17 Sep 2007 10:23 PM by Ivo Worth Star rating. 6 posts Send private message

Dear Kelju,

If you bought into that development, you have done well. Historically speaking, properties in great locations will appreciate in value in the years to come. Where as certain overbuilt and over supplied areas on the CDS are slowly losing their value, your type of development will not.

Front line beach, walking distance to a marina, historic fishing village, golf course, all amenities, only one phase... How many other new developments do you know of with these characteristics? I for one, do not. So, talk to the developers, make your point. But if I bought into the development myself, I would not walk away from it, no matter if a pool was built or not. After 25 years here, I know what these type of properties will do to your equity in the future. Be happy.

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25 Sep 2007 7:51 PM by kelju Star rating in South Yorkshire . 302 posts Send private message

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Pitby,

Sorry for the delay in replying, been away for a few days.  Yes it is Marina Del Castillo on the Duquesa Golden Mile/Ros Y Falcon development, interesting to know that the pool was abandoned on the Duquesa Village development but I think that this has got more to do with the promenade that is going to be extended in front of the apartment block, I don't know if planning regulations and/or building regulations dictate minimum distances etc.

Ivo,

Thanks for those encouraging words, I think I will wait to see what happens before reaching any decision. 

Kelvin





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09 Oct 2007 4:20 PM by janejohn Star rating. 183 posts Send private message

Hi

This is for Maria, who I have recently asked for advice via email, and who was very helpful - thank you.  Our problem is that the specification for our apartment has changed and patio doors leading to a small terrace loff the master bedroom has been replaced by a plain window.  We are obviously unhappy about this as the terrace was shown on the promotional plans and also the actual plan.  The developer has said the plan was just a general plan and that a clause in the contract allows for changes, whilst our solicitor is not being too helpful either.  If it is the case that the promotional plan forms part of the case are we entitled to hold out for an apartment on a later phase which is as the original specification?  Any advice would be much appreciated.





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09 Oct 2007 5:06 PM by Rixxy Star rating in San Pedro. 2010 posts Send private message

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Someone else had the same problem and I belevie Maria said the publicity you are given and the plans does form part of the contract. I do know on some off plan info it states this is not the case so it will depend on your info - Maria will be the best person to answer that one

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10 Oct 2007 11:46 AM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9402 posts Send private message

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Yes, publicity has contractual value.

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