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22 Mar 2012 00:00 by p0702 Star rating. 5 posts Send private message

what height is the rule for children in car  front seat    passager in spain





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22 Mar 2012 14:18 by Pitby Star rating in Andalucía. 1904 posts Send private message

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 Think it is 12 years of age and/or 135cm height and they can sit in front/use adult seat belt without booster.





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22 Mar 2012 15:06 by cimpey Star rating. 2 posts Send private message

 

Can you put your child on a booster seat to make them 135 com so that they can sit in the front seat, or do they have to be a certain height without the booster Seat?

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22 Mar 2012 15:24 by Pitby Star rating in Andalucía. 1904 posts Send private message

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 From what I understand - although I am not expert and just from what I've read - a children under 135 must use an appropriate child restraint, whether sat in the front or back.

See here - which is what the AA advises.

 





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22 Mar 2012 16:07 by bobaol Star rating. 2257 posts Send private message

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  http://www.eyeonspain.com/forums/posts-long-4684.aspx

And if it doesn't work:

This has already been discussed.  Rather than give you the link I posted in April, here it is copied

The rules in Spain are the same as UK.  Children must have their own car seat. I had to have a booster seat for my 8 year grandaughter last year and a child seat for my 5 year old grandson.  Children under 135cm must have a booster seat.

This from the Get Spain website:

Up to 9 months and up to 10 kg, a carrycot must be used laid across the rear seat and secured with the car's safety belt or any specially approved attachment.

From 10kg to 13kg and up to 2 years of age, a child's car seat fitted in the rear with the child facing rearwards.

From 9kg to 18kg and from 9 months to 3 years old, child seats facing frontwards or rearwards , fitted in the rear of the car and secured as detailed in the seats instructions.

From 15kg to 25kg and 3 to 6 years of age, use a seat adaptor (elevator) to lift the child up to fit comfortably with, if necessary, a CE-EU approved seat belt adaptor.

From 22kg to 36kg and 6 to 12 years of age, use a seat elevator so that the child is comfortably protected using the seat belts.

Children up to the age of 12 are not allowed to sit in the front seat.

.  There are hire shops which will rent out a child car seat and I have definitely seen such shops in Torrevieja but can't  remember where.  I'm sure they'll have the same type of shops wherever you are.

 

 



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23 Mar 2012 20:45 by cimpey Star rating. 2 posts Send private message

Thanks for the reply it was very helpful



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23 Mar 2012 22:35 by Pitby Star rating in Andalucía. 1904 posts Send private message

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"Children up to the age of 12 are not allowed to sit in the front seat."

I'm not sure that is entirely correct.  A child of 12 can be the size of an adult, which wouldn't equate to that child having to sit in the back seat of the car.  My son is taller than me and he is 12!!  I am sure there are other criteria - height? weight? - which are taken into consideration.  

I believe that, so long as your child is restrained correctly, whether using the adult seat belt and booster seat or otherwise, you should be ok, but best to check with the relevant authorities if concerned, rather than our limited knowledge.

 

 





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24 Mar 2012 07:32 by ojosazul89 Star rating. 7 posts Send private message

 

Well what a strange topic.
 
Surely you can work out for yourself where and how to sit a child in a car safely without having to get a copy of an EU directive from Brussels.
 
Or maybe not, there’s always one born every day. p@m how did you go on with your 11+ at school? Looks like bobaol got his GCSE in child seats.




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24 Mar 2012 10:22 by jeffsears Star rating. 36 posts Send private message

Whats all the fuss about?

When in Rome do as the Romans.

Mopeds with 2 adults, a child, a dog and the shopping. Cars with children standing in the front footwell. Seatbelts tidily placed away. Mobile phone attached to your ear while lighting a cigarette. I could go on.

Don't worry about Brussels directives. Remember the Socialist Thought Police only exist in the UK.





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24 Mar 2012 10:56 by ojosazul89 Star rating. 7 posts Send private message

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24 Mar 2012 11:07 by bobaol Star rating. 2257 posts Send private message

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El REAL DECRETO 965/2006, de 1 de septiembre

Queda prohibido circular con menores de doce años situados en los asientos delanteros del vehículo,

It does go on to say unless a specially fitted restraint is used for those over 135cm.  So unless you have a specially designed child restraint fitted in your front seats then children under 12 are not allowed to sit in the front of a vehicle.  

(Cue all further comments stating I don't care what the law says, or - I use common sense or - I can decide who sits in the seats etc etc).  

 



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24 Mar 2012 11:28 by ojosazul89 Star rating. 7 posts Send private message

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24 Mar 2012 11:40 by bobaol Star rating. 2257 posts Send private message

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 No, but it's quite simple to Google Real Decretos (laws) in Spain.  Obviously a little above your intellectual level but keep using the crayons.

 





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24 Mar 2012 12:40 by dumbbunny Star rating in Spain. 10 posts Send private message

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24 Mar 2012 13:21 by bobaol Star rating. 2257 posts Send private message

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 Have other forums suddenly had a clear out of their trolls?  Seems to be a few popping up on here with nowhere else to go. Judging by all dumbbunnies posts, kindergarten must have broken up early for the Easter hols.

 





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24 Mar 2012 13:41 by paulsimkiss Star rating in Thailand & Spain. 58 posts Send private message

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It is sad that such a low intelligence subject as this has been posted on EOS. And even sadder that so called EU crayon book experts have risen to the challenge to advise idiots of what legal technical requirements the EU and Spain enforce on such a basic common sense subject.. God help us all, I don’t think the lot of them put together could add up a sandwich shop order without a calculator, or an EU directive.


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24 Mar 2012 13:43 by stillgoin Star rating. 161 posts Send private message

 the thing is if they used a calculator then they would give the wrong change





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24 Mar 2012 15:59 by pearllinda Star rating in javea. 19 posts Send private message

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 He he, this is a Hot Topic! I asked Google about it some months ago and got very confused by what I read so in the end I went to the local police station in Javea and asked there. I figured they were the ones who would be fining me if I got caught doing the wrong thing after all. I was told children under 12 cannot sit in front under any circumstances. I suppose its okay for them to dance around unbelted though as I am always passing carswhere this happens!



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24 Mar 2012 16:38 by stillgoin Star rating. 161 posts Send private message

 i do wodner who would actually want to put there kids in a dangerous position? and even be prepared to argue a case in their favour

as they say the least common of the senses is common sense!





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24 Mar 2012 18:08 by bobaol Star rating. 2257 posts Send private message

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  i do wodner who would actually want to put there kids in a dangerous position? and even be prepared to argue a case in their favour

as they say the least common of the senses is common sense!

But people do.  They also put themselves in danger by not wearing seat belts.  Then you get those who say that they are better drivers after a couple of drinks.  Or have unrestrained dogs in their cars.  Or carry dangerous loads etc etc.

It's why governments have to make laws to protect people from themselves and then get slated for taking away "personal freedoms".  And, getting away from driving, people who swim in the seas when the red flags are flying and wonder why they end up having to be rescued by the emergency services.  Darwin's Law may.cull the idiotic but their actions, unfortunately, can affect others.  

That's not, however, to decry the original question.  Laws throughout the EU vary a great deal and it's always good to get the real story rather than rely on gossip and rumour.





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