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12 Mar 2011 1:52 PM by noddy Star rating. 150 posts Send private message

Does anyone know when the meetings between govt and unions are. 2 of my visits in the next 4 months are affected, very tempted to bite thr bullet now and change dates

 

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12 Mar 2011 2:45 PM by Sanchez1 Star rating. 853 posts Send private message

First round of talks failed to reach agreement.  It looks like they are going to try again on Monday or Tuesday.



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12 Mar 2011 2:49 PM by CostaChris Star rating in Yorkshire and Arroyo.... 38 posts Send private message

I believe that two meetings have already taken place this last wek, the last on Thursday evening. There are conflicting claims from the official and union sides with a consensus that some (whatever that means) progress is being made. More meetings to follownext week.



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14 Mar 2011 4:05 PM by bernardrose Star rating in Telford England / Mi.... 16 posts Send private message

As anyone heard anything new about the proposed strikes at Easter?





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14 Mar 2011 5:00 PM by Hammersfan Star rating in Body in Essex, Heart.... 160 posts Send private message

Can someone please amend the title of this thread getting rid of the unnecessary apostraphe. it is driving me nuts!





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14 Mar 2011 7:59 PM by Comadreja Star rating in the Sierra de Cadiz. 51 posts Send private message

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The threat of strike action is the only bargaining tool these low-paid airport workers have in the negotiations with AENA.  To avoid the strikes, all AENA has to do is promise that none of them will lose their jobs when it is privatised.  Is that so difficult?  Why does everyone always blame the workers and not the management?

At least they have published the dates well in advance so we can make our travel plans accordingly, unlike the air traffic controllers who just walked out leaving everyone stranded.





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14 Mar 2011 8:43 PM by Text Star rating in Murcia. 16 posts Send private message

 

@comadreja
 
Would it be impolite to ask why you call yourself the "weasel"?
 
Following your disclosure that you read El Pais – a Spanish cross between the Guardian and the Independent - you presumably have sympathy with ALL the low paid, not just airport workers. Unfortunately low wages are a fact of life in a capitalist society simply because we can’t ALL be paid high wages (or even average wages). 
 
It is also an unfortunate but inescapable reality that when a “business” is “privatised” people are made redundant – a result of reorganisation to manage performance efficiently. Blame the capitalist pigs.
 
The threat of the airport workers strike has already caused a huge loss in confidence in Spain as a holiday destination - should the strike go ahead it will be an economic disaster for Spain (as discussed by others on this blog) and could be the final nail in the country’s coffin.  What will follow next is anyone’s guess, but living standards will fall to level not seen in Spain for fifty years.  
 
Perhaps the trade unions will secure a few years of Marxist rule (people adjust to anything – particularly when they have to) and Spain will emerge a regenerated and vibrant country. Like Russia for example. 




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14 Mar 2011 9:46 PM by jek Star rating. 249 posts Send private message

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Can someone please amend the title of this thread getting rid of the unnecessary apostraphe. it is driving me nuts!


 

A sensitive Hammersfan??  Methinks not.  Methinks a highly grumpy Hammersfan following the thrashing of yesterday.
Presumably transferring the apostrophe to follow "flights" would let you sleep nights - unless imminent relegation prevents you from sleeping anyway ;-)

Oh and you know what they say about folk who live in glass houses?  You've misspelt "apostrophe"







 





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14 Mar 2011 9:57 PM by Hammersfan Star rating in Body in Essex, Heart.... 160 posts Send private message

and Jek, you have forgotten the R in your name





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14 Mar 2011 10:05 PM by Sanchez1 Star rating. 853 posts Send private message

These "low paid workers" may lose their jobs when AENA is privatised.  However, if they do go on strike for the full 22 days, and massively damage Spain's tourist industry, you can be certain that a good few of them will lose their jobs.

I've got no sympathy for anyone going on strike in Spain when there are so many unemployed who'd jump at the chance of a job.  They should be grateful they've got a job.



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14 Mar 2011 11:03 PM by samcampbell Star rating in Costa Del Sol. 136 posts Send private message

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It took nearly 4 hours to get the Take that Tickets, for the opening night at Wembley.......

Flying to the UK on the 30th June

Flying to Spain on the 4th July....

Speechless!!!



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15 Mar 2011 9:34 AM by Text Star rating in Murcia. 16 posts Send private message

 

Sure there is a huge unemployment problem in Spain, particularly amongst the young, but this is explained partly by the low quality of the workforce. There are 300,000 Spanish people of working age who can not read or write and 955,000 who have only completed primary education and more than 1 million have not completed secondary education. 
Rather than unemployed they are unemployable.
 
Given the state of the UK education system it is probably worse there!
Blame the teachers – or should that be the families who did not receive a decent education from the teachers!




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15 Mar 2011 9:48 AM by bernardrose Star rating in Telford England / Mi.... 16 posts Send private message

I will take that as a no then. Nobody has heard anything new about the strikes.





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15 Mar 2011 11:03 AM by Text Star rating in Murcia. 16 posts Send private message

@ Bernardrose

The dates are around Easter, two Spanish bank holidays and at the start and finish of the vacation season:
 
April:  20th, 21st, 24th, 25th and 30th 
May: 2nd, 14th, 15th, 19th and 20th June 13th, 23rd, 30th  July: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 15th and 31st  August: 1st, 15th and 31st

So far these are just proposed dates (except for the 21st April), meant to put up the pressure. If you are planning to fly to Spain, it’s better to avoid these dates. If you already bought tickets for an announced strike day, we suggest to wait a little while until more is certain

What do Spain, Greece and the UK have in common?
 
One: They are all bankrupt
 
Two: They have all had their finances handled by socialists with their pinko "fairness for all" socialist ways. They have tried to make everyone equal, as is their wont, and it hasnt worked.

Name one socialist government, in the UK and Spain in the last 60 years, that hasn’t left the country in a dire financial mess.
 
 

 




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15 Mar 2011 11:41 AM by TechNoApe Star rating in Duquesa, Manilva. 1277 posts Send private message

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"I will take that as a no then."

LOL

The last I heard is that some progress was made at the last meeting, and they are having another meeting today.

The fact that they are continuing to meet is a good sign.

This is the last thing that Spain needs right now, however many believe damage limitation is all they can do now, even if the strikes don't go ahead!

Having said that, would the threat of travel disruption put me off a holiday to my chosen destination, bearing in mind that I already know all the dates in advance? - No! As' I'd rather still go and just work around the disruption. If I'd already booked the flights for days that looked like they were going to strike on, I'd wait until closer to the time and see what happens - as it might not happen!

Last year, same time, we went to the UK for a two week holiday.... and got stuck there for 4 weeks due to the ash clouds! Nothing we could do about it, didn't moan and bitch about it, just one of those things! However Easyjet did gave us a free change of flight, and we claimed the extra expenses from our travel insurance.



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15 Mar 2011 11:42 AM by bernardrose Star rating in Telford England / Mi.... 16 posts Send private message

Thanks Text,

I have booked flight for 21st April. Due to work commitments I can't really change that date. I will have to just keep my fingers crossed.





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15 Mar 2011 11:49 AM by TechNoApe Star rating in Duquesa, Manilva. 1277 posts Send private message

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bernardrose,

Yes! For those that can't change their flight due to work commitments, than all you can do is cross your fingers!

I just don't get some people some time!

They are quibbling about their work conditions and pay, and yet by doing this the odds are that next year they won't even have a job.

Me, I'd rather work more hours and take a pay cut than have no job at all!



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15 Mar 2011 1:42 PM by Sanchez1 Star rating. 853 posts Send private message

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Sure there is a huge unemployment problem in Spain, particularly amongst the young, but this is explained partly by the low quality of the workforce. There are 300,000 Spanish people of working age who can not read or write and 955,000 who have only completed primary education and more than 1 million have not completed secondary education. 
Rather than unemployed they are unemployable.
 
But even a lot of these people could get jobs during the boom.  It doesn't take a genius to lay some bricks does it.


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15 Mar 2011 2:29 PM by rod Star rating in Uk and Spain. 469 posts Send private message

Sanchez

Thanks for the BLOG very suprised at SUPERSOL prices what other supermarkets offer good value would you say in comparison

The reason I ask is I am keen for Holiday Rentors to get good value so they will hopefully return to the Costa Del Sol for Holidays

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15 Mar 2011 3:22 PM by Text Star rating in Murcia. 16 posts Send private message

 

@Sanchez1
 
“It doesn't take a genius to lay some bricks does it.”
 
Presumably this is a rhetorical question ….
 
If you employ  idiots to build houses your country’s housing stock will always be low quality.
There’s the answer!   But didn’t we know this already?
 
Apart from the fact that most of the actually "labouring" on Spanish building sites during the "housing boom" was performed by South Americans and Africans.  Now these jobs have gone these people are (slowly) returning home.




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