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05 Dec 2018 2:40 PM by mac75 Star rating in Valencia. 412 posts Send private message

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Vox has swept its way into the Andalusian regional parliament. The far-right party rejects Spain’s highly decentralized system granting devolved powers to the regions (known in Spanish as the Estado autonómico), even though this system is encoded in the Spanish Constitution. Vox also does not believe in the electoral system that has just earned it nearly 400,000 votes and 12 seats in the regional legislature.

The following are the main ideas guiding the 100-point program defended by Vox, whose leaders will now take aim at local, regional and possibly national elections in Spain next year.


The structure of power.

Vox rejects Spain’s current system of devolved regional powers. Point 6 of the program clearly states as a goal: “Transforming the Estado autonómico into a state with a single set of laws that will promote equality and solidarity instead of privilege and division. One single government and one single parliament for all of Spain. As a preliminary step, [we want] the immediate devolution of powers over education, health, security and justice, and to curtail regional legislative power as much as possible.”

National heroes.

The party wants to introduce “an integral plan to encourage knowledge, awareness and protection of the national identity and of Spain’s contribution to civilization and to universal history, with a special focus on the achievements and deeds of our own national heroes.” Vox wants to “put the needs of Spain and Spaniards ahead of the needs of oligarchies, chieftains, lobbies or supranational groups.”

No to the gender violence law.

Another one of Vox’s goals is “repealing the gender violence law and any other law that discriminates against one of the sexes, and replace it with a family violence law that will afford the same protection to the elderly, men, women and children who suffer from abuse. Eliminating subsidised radical feminist groups, and effectively prosecuting phoney complaints. Protecting minors during divorce proceedings.” Vox also wants to create a Family Ministry and introduce “an organic law protecting the natural family, which shall be recognised as an institution that came before the State.”


No to immigration.

The party plans to “control immigration flows depending on the needs of our national economy and of the new arrivals’ ability to integrate into Spanish society and accept our values. There will be country quotas with favourable treatment for nationalities who share our language and who have significant cultural and friendship ties with Spain.” As for illegal immigrants, Vox wants to deport them all and to go after non-profit groups that help them get to Spain. If a migrant still manages to enter the country illegally, he or she will “be permanently ineligible for legal status, and thus ineligible for any form of state aid.” Years of residency will not be considered an acceptable cause for naturalization.


Eliminating wasteful spending.

Vox wants to “cut back on wasteful spending,” although few details are provided. Overall, the party wants “no more regional authorities, political spending, arbitrary appointments, advisors, official cars, or subsidies for political parties, unions and business associations.” The Constitutional Court would be eliminated altogether and its tasks assigned to the Supreme Court. The Senate would also be axed.


Education and health.

The party proposes “one single system of public healthcare and education for the entire national territory in order to guarantee that all Spaniards are free and equal in terms of their right to public services.” Vox also wants to introduce Spanish language examinations at the end of each mandatory school cycle, and to request express parental authorization before children receive an education in “ethical, social, civic, moral or sexual values.”

Taxes? What taxes?

Vox’s position on taxes is “the lower, the better.” The party is proposing a single income tax rate of 21%, with an exemption for the first €12,000 of earnings plus a €3,000 deduction for every child or dependent relative in the household. “This will represent €250 a month more in paychecks and pensions,” says the party. Vox wants to lower corporate and property taxes, and it plans to lift all taxes on electricity bills. The party is also proposing doing away entirely with the estate tax, inheritance tax and capital gains tax. Finally, Vox wants lower social security contributions for self-employed workers.

Fight against corruption.

Vox wants to eliminate government pardons, to establish tougher punishment for corruption-related crimes, and “a judicial power that is national in scope, independent, and professional.” The program adds that Vox would include wasteful spending by elected officials as a new offence in the criminal code.

Islamic fundamentalism.

Vox wants to “shut down fundamentalist mosques,” to “regain control of our borders,” and to “arrest and deport extremist imams.” The party also opposes the idea of Turkey joining the European Union. Spain should participate in “military combat missions against the Jihadist threat” and build “an insurmountable wall in Ceuta and Melilla.” Vox also wants to reclaim Gibraltar and to “recover our sway in Europe and the world – the sway that our people, our economy and our history deserve.”

So, what do you think....?


[source El Pais]


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05 Dec 2018 3:48 PM by Kavanagh Star rating in Oil Drum Lane Newcas.... 1227 posts Send private message

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Not our country, none of our business, a matter for Spanish nationals. We are just foreign guests here.

There is enough in the world for everyone, but not enough for the greedy!

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05 Dec 2018 4:02 PM by mac75 Star rating in Valencia. 412 posts Send private message

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Speak for yourself. If you feel you are a guest...

If you live here in Spain, one way or another politics will have an influence on you and you have just as much right to to share an opinion on the topic as a Spanish national. I have been living in Spain for over 20 years and it is very much my business just as much and any Spaniard's business.


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A donde el corazón se inclina, el pie camina.

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05 Dec 2018 5:04 PM by Mickyfinn Star rating in Spain and France. 1836 posts Send private message

Vox is a symptom of the times in which we live in the world. The principal fear driving popularisim in Europe is the extent of illegal migration from Islamic states and sub Saharan Africa. In Trumps America it's from Mexico.

In Spain there's a lot of hypocrisy.  Migrants form the backbone support of Spain's massive agriculural sector. Their poor working conditions and incomes keeps the market very competitive. Spanish people don't want these jobs, yet they don't like the people who do the work and want them removed from the country.

Vox are every bit the disgusting racialists of La Pen's FN and the far right in UK. The rise of the far right and twisted nationalism historically leads to global conflict. People should remember that.. 

Time is the school in which we learn Time is the fire in which we burn. Delmore Schwartz.

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09 Dec 2018 11:23 AM by hrespana Star rating. 31 posts Send private message

Difficult one to call.  I know neither how many of the immigrants who enter Europe through Spain stay here, nor how many of those that do are employed.  I would have thought that if they have employment, there would be no need to enter illegally.   What I do know, especially in the light of the Marrakesh declaration being signed this month, is that unlimited illegal immigration from Africa into Europe is unsustainable.

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