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15 Nov 2018 9:32 AM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5240 posts Send private message

I have not read the 500 pages of the Brexit ‘draft agreement’ but U.K. nationals right to live in the EU may have changed significantly.

It appears from news reports that for Brits to maintain their right of residence and their family they will need to have lived permanently in the EU for the past five years

That would appear to bring them in line with non EU nationals, who only get permanent status after five years.   Thus it may also be that Brits in future will need to have an annual income of around 27,000 euros, instead of the just over 5,000, as non EU nationals do now

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15 Nov 2018 10:31 AM by baz1946 Star rating. 2299 posts Send private message

Why would anyone bother to read 500 plus pages..I say plus 500 because they cant even agree on the amount it is, some say 500, others say 585, besides whats the point on reading something that concerns our future greatly but would never have any chance to contest it's wording....Trying to leave the EU has shown us this?

As for having 27,000€'s to live on, if that means Spain also then thats just another nail in the coffin for Spain, another load of fake news.

Live in the EU for 5 years, well we have done that for the past many years anyway under EU Mafia rules.

None of this means a fig, probably deep inside the con artists agreement under some never to be understood jargon it most likely say's   'Don't worry EU we wont ever leave'.  Mission Accomplised.



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15 Nov 2018 1:48 PM by mariedav Star rating in Ciudad Quesada. 1172 posts Send private message

I think you may need to re-read it, johnzx. It says the rights that UK citizens already have will be retained if they are, resident in Spain or have applied for residency before the end of the transition period which is 21 months after Brexit day.

(b) United Kingdom nationals who exercised their right to reside in a Member State in accordance with Union law before the end of the transition period and continue to reside there thereafter; (It also refers to family members, those who work and several other categories)

2. Persons falling under points (a) and (b) of Article 3(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC whose residence was facilitated by the host State in accordance with its national legislation before the end of the transition period in accordance with Article 3(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC shall retain their right of residence in the host State in accordance with this part provided they continue to reside in the host state thereafter.

It then goes on to say that you would retain these rights during absences from the host nation unless the period of absence is a continued 5 years.

The 5 year rule would probably only come into play for those applying for residency after the transition period has ended which would make sense as we will not longer be a EU country.

And you need to update your residency requirements. The amount required for EU citizens is nearer €10,000 a year now.

Of course, the above would only apply if the draft treaty is agreed by our parliament and those of the other 27 nations which is looking rather unlikely if you've been watching the BBC news today.

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