Registering on the EU Citizens Register (replaced the Residencia) The form in English

 "But it is not the EU it is Spain."  ????????????  Yes and Spain is in the EU and cannot deny residency except under extreme cirumstances to other EU citizens.

 An ilegal living in a country would not normally apply for any official paperwork as they are illegal.

Johnzx, you are misunderstanding what im saying, im only referring to EU citizens, so they would not be illegal in Spain yet if they couldnt meet the new eu registartion requirements in Spain, ie proof of funds or health rights, could be potentially denied this paperwork.

So step 1

                              get legal

Step 2

                               get a DL

I think ojosazul88 is trying to make an interesting point. There seems to be a lot of confusion surrounding this new ruling about having to provide proof of income etc. in order to be granted the right to reside in Spain. I don't know the answer to this - but does any indiviual member state of the EU have the right to impose residency conditions on other EU citizens or not? I thought not, but maybe they can. I read recently that if a person coming from outside the EU says the magic words "I want to claim assylum", they have the right to remain until their case is heard (which can be years) - so maybe new arrivals from the UK should try the same tactic? 

Lets get it quite clear for once & all. EU regulations state that any citizen from any EU country has the right to CHOOSE to become resident in any other EU country. The countries HAVE NO SAY IN THE MATTER WHATSOEVER ! The only thing that they can ask , if they so wish, is that you register as a 'foreign citizen' on a register. Failure to do that can result in a fine, 300euros in spain but only 59 in Greece. A failed attempt at registering denes them the right to impose a fine.

Regardless of whether you register or not you cannot be thrown out/deported . It is totally against EU rules.

You cannot be thrown out on economic grounds under any circumstances.

You can only be thrown out/deported from any country for A) offences against the state or B) terrorism.C)public health reasons.

From here;

http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/internal_market/living_and_working_in_the_internal_market/l33152_en.htm

Under EU rules Any permanent foreign resident is identical to a Spanish/French/German/Italian, etc;etc; etc; national. You cannot be treated any differently & in regards of information, you cannot be asked anything that a National of the country would not be asked. 

In addition you should not be asked to supply info that requires you to run around getting it but should point out that , regarding health, they have a duty under EU directive883/4 to obtain said info from the other country counterparts directly via internet/phone which is what the directive lays down.

In the event of a difference between National law & EU rules, Eu rules ALWAYS take priority , except when national law gives better conditions.

All of the above info. is freely available witha bit of effort on the internet

"In the event of a difference between National law & EU rules, Eu rules ALWAYS take priority" - that may be the case in theory, but most if not all EU member states seem to pretty much ignore that when it suits them. The point ojosazul88 was making I think is that if the Spanish authorities refuse to give you a certificate of registration (for example because you don't have private medical insurance) what in practice can you do about it? It seems to be a pretty daft bit of "legislation" anyway, because what would constitute proof of health coverage for the period of residency? I think most health policies have a duration of 1 year. Are they going to check every year that foreign residents have renewed their insurance, and if not deport them?

" It seems to be a pretty daft bit of "legislation" anyway, because what would constitute proof of health coverage for the period of residency? I think most health policies have a duration of 1 year. Are they going to check every year that foreign residents have renewed their insurance, and if not deport them? ""

You are perfectly correct. Some will even cancel them immediately ! Once you have the first certificate then renewal ,& permanent residency, is guaranteed as no further info . can be asked for nor qusetions asked.

This is interesting:

Would appear to directly contravene Article 8(4) which explicity prohibits Member States from laying down a fixed amount to be regarded as "sufficient resources", either directly or indirectly, below which the right of residence can be automatically refused.

 this would reject 90% of immigrants into the UK !!!!!!

That is bizarre, as there is no connection between an NIE number and residence, and the EU Citizens Registration certificate is not legally required unless 90 days have elapsed....

I would suggest the person files an additional complaint with SOLVIT in this case.

Some very strange stuff goes on here!

 "I do not think there is much confusion about what one now needs to do"

Wanna rethink that now, JX?

 It's that dangerous time of the evening to post comments. Sipping a nice Amarone, since I'm in the UK for a few days. It would stick in the craw to buy Spanish at 3x the price I can in my local superette.

But, apropos all this stuff, I had a call from one of my kids this afternoon who is in the process of getting a job in Germany working as a receptionist in a hotel.

She (with a personal stack of UK, USA, South African, Aussie & Zimbabwe passports) has to register with the German tax authorities and apply for a SIX MONTH VISA in order to proceed with her employment.

When I gave my barrack room lawyer opinion that they were out of order, she replied:

You are probably quite right daddy but I need to get the job.

So perhaps we aren't treated so badly here en Espana. btw,  Espana esta jodida, and that's beyond denial. desafortunadamente.

Shame, though, that that "flexibility" is only achieved by registering a complaint (according to your previous post). Sounds like the Germans, whether or not they are also flouting EU regulations, at least know what they're doing and are prepared for every contigency, rather than making it up as they go along.

Thanks for this thread its been most useful being one of those looking to move to spain soon but unsure of the new residency rules.

 Whether legal or not I figured I'd have to comply and that resistance was futile.

 May I ask as a summary of the thread Is it simply a case then that as one with no employment I can show I need to have european health insurance and 5k in euros and I'm in?