Gardens of Manilva Finished - so what's everyone decided to do?

For now the developer is concentrating on pushing through completions on the linked villas which should generate some cash for him.  He also still has the detatched villas to finish.

The situation on GOM is a very difficult one and each persons circumstance is different - and may even depend on how long ago you appointed a solicitor.  A year ago the first thing our solicitor did was to get the signed contract back from Manilva Costa.  At this late stage, if you don't aready have this back, MC have got wise and I don't think you stand much chance of getting one (fundamental if you wish to sue for your money back).

I would think that the only way the bank will 'step in' will be to repossess the properties if MC go bust - each of them has a mortgage on it.  At that stage the bank would be looking to recoup their money so I suppose they might offer the properties to the original purchasers at 'cost'.  The bank will only be looking out for themselves and won't be in the business of compensating 'purchasers' who paid deposits to a British agent who has since gone bust, and who have no contracts with the developer!

To be honest you can drive yourself mad with maybes and what ifs.  You have to look at your own situation, get independent advice and make a choice you can live with.

Hel

i dont believ I have a cat in hells chance of getting any money back, but I am narked by the thought we may all have been taken for a ride.

If you google 'gardens of manivla' the 4th result that comes up looks like another company in England selling the same properties? Having grown up with Ester Ranzen exposing crooks it makes me wonder if OVP has just set up again under another name? Or am I just a Wogan suspicious old geezer?!   

The Gardens of Manilva website set up by another buyer.

He set it up as a rental site instead of OVP taking the cream from rentals.

He is one of us.

it depends it seems on having a bank guarantee or indemnity policy which I was told the money was bank guranteed however, it seems that was total crap.....anyone else have that experience or agree/ disagree??

The bank guarantee we had was a general guarantee for the complex.

This wasnt a guarantee  for the money we paid.

The amount guaranteed was 2.500.00.00euro for 258 properties =each property gauranteed the sum of 9.689.93.  or there about.

I believe this should have been pointed out by our solicitors.... Lesley  Alberici conveyancing spain, Recommened by guess who ...........

OVP

Has anyone been in touch with Vera Mates.Personally I have sent e mail after e mail as instructed by OVP and not even received one reply.WHY?.....................................

I have only been in touch with Vera Mates through my lawyer and she speaks / meets with him because she is legally obliged to do so.  I wouldn't take a blind bit of notice of any instruction from OVP and instruct a solicitor to deal with her.  All the things that are coming out of the woodwork means its far too tricky to deal with them by yourself.

Just read through postings.

Springermill - Website you refer to has been set up by another chap who bought on the site. He contacted me ages ago cause he is trying to get a 'community' together and trying to set up own rental company. Why did you pull out. Surely a property is better than expensive action in the hope of getting only half your money back (if any) ?

Helsmc - what is coming out of woodwork? My apartment is finished. I am strugglin a bit with getting a mortgage but Vera has been very helpful and I hope to complete early April. Valuations were well down as everyone expected but got reduced price out of Vera so going ahead. No chance of cash back ......is there ??

Also what's all the fuss about CUK. What did they do? OV sent us their details but we used local overseas conveyancing firm and they were fine. I have to admit that they didn't point out the bank guarentee issue but it is irrelevant now anyway as the site is built.

Just read YOUR posting.

Were you sold an appartment under the impression that Gardens of Manilva country club would incorporate-

" An indoor swimming pool and fully equipped gym as well as a health and beauty area with a sauna/steam room, Also offering a bar and restaurant area, as well as creche facilities and outdoor childrens play area".???????? (I sound like an OVP sales man)

We paid an extra 10,000 euros to be right outside the outdoor pool, which for some unknown reason was moved to directly outside the developers block.

The fact that the apartments are significantly smaller than the plans.

The fact that we were sold an apartment with two bathrooms not one.

Oh just the small matter of no bank gaurantee of over 100,000euros deposit . Paying full IVA on the property price up front. You say conveyancing spain have nothing to answer.

And YES we have a very good chance of getting our hard earned money back.

And also the fact half the apartments are falling down.

Hi I know of someone who visited the site last week and said that the holes in the appartments are big enough to crawl through! Not good news. We are totally browned off with it all.  Apparantly there were hardly any people working up there.

Has anyone managed to sort out an price redcution?  We were offered around 7000 Euros.  Take a guess what they can do with that!

Hi Loubi

We were last out there at Christmas and would say they were a bit bigger than crawling through, I could have walked through a couple of what we saw.  Be careful.

Jojan

Hi James,

Its nice to find someone that is pleased with their purchase on GOM.  You seem happy enough so your property obviously doesn't have the issues everyone else's does.  Like Tracey has mentioned, most people on this site have a list as long as their arms of problems preventing us from completing.  Maybe you have bought a linked villa or somewhere on the site other than the apartments in Phase 1?  I believe the apartments have the worst issues in terms of structural defects.

Like most people here, if I was getting what I was promised, I would be more than happy to complete.  The site is in a beautiful location, fantastic views in a lovely part of Spain.  I wanted nothing more than to enjoy a holiday home there.  We weren't that bothered about the rental (and probably would have just rented to family and friends) and never planned to used OVP Travel to generate rentals for us anyway.

Oh, and all the 'fuss' about CUK is more than justified.  Your property might be built to the highest standards, but my apartment is sitting unfinished in a block covered in cracks so big they can't even put windows in it.  If  CUK had done the job they were paid for and it had been pointed out that I didn't have a bank guarantee, we never would have proceeded.  If we had a bank guarantee we would have executed it over a year ago, when we missed the promised completion date, and I would have all of my money back by now. 

Hel

For all those who have not yet registered their dissatisfaction with

OVP

Ocean View Properties

and also

CUK / Lesley Alberici

Please call the Economic Crime Unit investigation team at Staffordshire Police

you can contact them on Tel. No. 0300 123 4455

They are currently delving into the activities of all of above with great interest...

I have just discovered this site and even though I would not wish this on anyone I am glad I am not alone. You would not believe the amount of lies I have been told about this and they are still coming.

I am wondering if anyone bought their property from an agent in N Ireland? If so will you let me know.

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!  Tony & Mike, guess you've not got the hang of posting yet.

Very funny Tish...

Very very funny....

I am crying with laughter....

You have succeded in making me laugh for the first time in I do not know how long.....

Makes a change from reading messages and getting more worried and stressed...

Thanks.

Hi Lava clip,

 Did you see the post from Wenbano? It's been edited now thank goodness, but he must have kept his finger on the "post now" button for five minutes!!  It must have posted at least 20 times. It made me dizzy!

I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic to me, as my previous post looks out of context now.  If I genuinely made you laugh....then I'm very happy.  Laughter seems a rare occurrence these days.