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Monday, February 12, 2007
Juan Pánzon
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I just wanted to leave you, as I know there is a lot of British citizens in this forum a link that takes to a petition to the Government not to cut support for the Red Arrows Acrobatic Team...
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/SaveTheReds/
I wish I could do it but you see.... I´m Argentine.... so I can not...
Anyway, as a lover of aeroplanes...... I beg you to support the Red Arrows on my behalf, I can not conceive aviation without them.... those are very well spent taxes..... the Red Arrows have sold dozens of Hawk jets all over the world... and brought billions of Pounds to the British economy..... and will continue to do so with a bit of support from you guys..... also, the Red Arrows Team is at the end of the line.... a Front Line Squadron.. superb airmen..
Cheers,
Juan. _______________________ "I knew a lad that went to sea and left the shore behind him, I knew him well, the lad was me....... but now I can not find him" ( Old sailor´s song"?)
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12 Feb 2007 9:36 PM
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This message was last edited by JeansSis on 5/17/2007. _______________________
Be respectful to other members who try to help.
There's nothing to be gained by being offensive.
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12 Feb 2007 10:57 PM
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Me and mine signed too Juan, red arrows have flown over our home (very priveleged!) and seen them at mildenhall air show quite a few times Brill!!
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13 Feb 2007 12:32 AM
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Total support Juan
The Red arrows are based at San Javier in Murcia on the Mar Menor, not 10 minutes from my house in Spain. We get treated to many practice flights all year round, and in fact I was watching a formation at 3 pm today whilst sat outside my local restaurant on the beach, in 23 degrees sunshine - fantastic! sadly back in UK now. Long may they fly!
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13 Feb 2007 8:46 AM
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ok, I know, I know. I was very tired and couldn't tell RED from BLUE !! Muy stupido - apologies to the RED ARROWS.
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13 Feb 2007 7:33 PM
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Yep!
I signed it and a few more whilst I was there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________
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15 Feb 2007 6:07 PM
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I have just signed, saw this thread way down the list, let's bring it back to the top!
I often see them when in Costa Blanca, I have some photos of them performing over La Zenia beach, fantastic.
Well done Juan for bringing this to our attention! _______________________
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15 Feb 2007 6:20 PM
Juan Pánzon
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Perhaps the members that already signed could post this link in other English forums where they might participate so the ammount of petitions becomes overwhelming...... I only participate in this forum in English. I´ve also sent the link to all British citizens in my contact list... perhaps, and being a "noble" cause, you could do the same?
Remember that if it wasn´t by guys like those, perhaps we would be having this conversation in a diferent language !!
And, you see.... as an Argentine I know how good those guys are.... and I had the pleasure to get aquainted with the Hawks of the 19th Squadron, based in Anglessey, Wales and also the fantastic training and simulation systems by BAE.... The Hawk is the advanced trainer of the USNAVY also.... with hundredds of units they call it "Goshawk" and the decission was made in close competition with other airplanes from all over the world. Those are and were thousands of millions of Pounds that Britain happily received. The Hawk is a beautiful airplane, it flies like a bird and can do almost anything...
Cheers,
Juan.
This message was last edited by Juan Pánzon on 2/15/2007. _______________________ "I knew a lad that went to sea and left the shore behind him, I knew him well, the lad was me....... but now I can not find him" ( Old sailor´s song"?)
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17 Feb 2007 8:23 PM
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Hi Juan,
I am sending this link to all my e-mail contacts. i am sure they will al sign his petition, it is very worthwhile.
We can't lose such a brilliant team and the dedicated followers of it.
Let's keep this thread to the top of he list!
Kind regards, _______________________
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17 Feb 2007 9:01 PM
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Same here, posting to all my email contacts as you say Fibby very worthwhile,
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17 Feb 2007 9:54 PM
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Well done Jill B!
~Back to the top again!
Yeah....................
Come on all you EOS members, support Juan, let's keep his post top and keep the Red Arrows flying!
Rgds, _______________________
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20 Feb 2007 10:20 PM
Juan Pánzon
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Just to keep this post up the line !
Juan. _______________________ "I knew a lad that went to sea and left the shore behind him, I knew him well, the lad was me....... but now I can not find him" ( Old sailor´s song"?)
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21 Feb 2007 3:12 PM
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The petition is not closed yet, still time to put your signature to it!
BUMP TO THE TOP AGAIN!!!

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21 Feb 2007 6:42 PM
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I have signed the petition. But are you sure these are the British Red Arrows in San Javier and not the Spanish equivalent as I was given to understand. Why would they be based in Spain - maybe the good weather I suppose. Anyone know for sure.
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22 Feb 2007 12:01 AM
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Crikey Jenechka,
You got me there for the minute! I doubted what I had signed for!
It is the British Red Arrows, as why would the petition be against the English Governements decision?
Juan posted the plea in the first place, please confirm what I think Juan!!! _______________________
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22 Feb 2007 12:04 AM
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I think the Spanish ones are blue but Juan will confirm for us _______________________
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22 Feb 2007 12:06 AM
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Oh help - think this was my mistake! Sorry Juan.
IT IS THE RED ARROWS IN THE UK
I was tired and thought Juan was referring to the Spanish Blue arrows based at San Javier. He was not.
THIS ABOUT THE BRITISH RED ARROWS
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22 Feb 2007 12:14 AM
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It's ok Jane, you haven't done anything wrong!
It's just the question posted by Jenechka that has thrown us all.
Here is part of Juan's original post:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/SaveTheReds/
I wish I could do it but you see.... I´m Argentine.... so I can not...
Anyway, as a lover of aeroplanes...... I beg you to support the Red Arrows on my behalf, I can not conceive aviation without them.... those are very well spent taxes..... the Red Arrows have sold dozens of Hawk jets all over the world... and brought billions of Pounds to the British economy..... and will continue to do so with a bit of support from you guys..... also, the Red Arrows Team is at the end of the line.... a Front Line Squadron.. superb airmen..
Cheers,
Juan.
So YES, it is the British Red Arrows!
Regards,
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22 Feb 2007 9:25 AM
Juan Pánzon
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Hello all,
I can confirm they are the Red Arrows, the Spanish acrobatic military team is called "Patrulla Flecha" and fly CASA´s 101, as opposite to the Red´s who fly the beautiful and fantastic BAE Hawk.
By the way, the Patrulla Flecha has a FANTASTIC landing manouvre that is the envy of lots of acrobatic team.... it is really a fantastic coordinated manoubre among 7 aeroplanes that turn into final in a difficult, no..... very dificcult "MOVE" that makes them touch down in formation at exactly the same time. They are also VERY good. I will see if I can post you guys a link for a video of this manouvre.
The Italian Team is the "Frecce Tricollore", the French are the "patrouille de France", the Rusians are the Russian Knights and...... last, but not least... La "Escuadrilla Cruz del Sur" of my beloved and brave Fuerza Aérea Argentina.
Cheeers,
Juan _______________________ "I knew a lad that went to sea and left the shore behind him, I knew him well, the lad was me....... but now I can not find him" ( Old sailor´s song"?)
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22 Feb 2007 9:41 AM
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Thanks for clarifying that Juan, I am sure we would support any of those mentioned though.
You are certainly very knowledgeable about it all, I would love to see the video link please.
You are ex military? Please tell us about yourself, i would be really interested.
Thanks, _______________________
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