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17 Mar 2009 12:00 AM by blueprawn Star rating. 10 posts Send private message

Hi Folks

In July last year we took on board a 2 bedroom apartment which was nearing completion on a rent to buy contract with a view of running it as a holiday rental business.

Now when we signed up the economy was in a much better state and the whole project would have been very viable due to the apartments location however the true value of the apartment has now almost halved but the price of the apartment still remains as it was last year due to the contract.

The apartment is now almost ready and the final contract will be ready for signing in the next 6 - 8 weeks when we collect the keys

The problem is that we now find ourselves in a position where once the renting period of 4 years has passed and the time comes to purchase the apartment the property value even with an optimistic rate of recovery would be at a level where we would have to find a large sum of cash before even the most generous bank would look at a mortgage application. This means that we realistically we will not be able to buy the apartment and after a lot of number crunching etc we would now like to pull out of the of the apartment as its not going to be worth it financially for us

Before we contact the builder to inform them of our intention does anyone have any recommendations of anybody preferably a solictitor etc that could just have a quick look at our contract signed last year and advise whether we can pull out, whether we would have any chance in getting in getting our €6.000 deposit back and just general advice on our position.  I have a pdf version of the document so therefore it could be emailed

If anyone can recommend or would be kind enough to look at it please PM me

Thanks

Steve

 

 





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17 Mar 2009 6:53 PM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9402 posts Send private message

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Dear Blueprawn:

If you cannot get finances, you can cancel the contract and ask for full refund of money paid.

http://www.eyeonspain.com/blogs/costaluz/482/credit-crunch-times-can-play-in-favour-of-consumers-why-not.aspx

Best regards,

Maria



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17 Mar 2009 8:06 PM by vbettcher Star rating. 5 posts Send private message

Maria

You say a contract can be cancelled if you cannot get the finances.  Do you need to be turned down by the developers bank or does it apply to any loan facility? How many applications would you be expected to make before being in a postion to cancel?

We ask this question because our Spanish solicitor seems to be under the impression that we cannot cancel even if we are unable to obtain the financing.

Regards

Val Bettcher

 





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18 Mar 2009 7:17 AM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9402 posts Send private message

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Dear Val:

Yes, you need to prove that you ahve been trying to obtain the required finances and under current circumnstaces have arised unpossible: 3 applications: one before the developer´s Bank and two other more.

AS those contracts were signed to be financed: no finances: no possibility of contract.

I understand some lawyers do not see it... it is so good we do!

Best wishes,

Maria 



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27 Mar 2009 7:59 PM by GuyT Star rating. 511 posts Send private message

I wish you the best of luck in extricating yourself. I come from South Africa where house offers are binding but frequently have a "suspension clause" stating that the buyer can withdraw if he cannot obtain finance (at interest of say bank rate plus 2%) within x no of days. This is all fine in a rising market because the seller doesn't want to be mucked about and if the buyer can't raise the money the seller is keen to move on to the next buyer. Unfortunately this is not the current situation in Espana. If I was the seller, and the value of my property had halved, and I had you signed up as a buyer, I would be most eager to finance the deal myself rather than let you wriggle out, ie the seller makes a loan available to you, because at the very least he would not have to refund a deposit. Also, I wonder if the contract states the maximum interest that the loan you have to raise may bear. I have seen situations  where the seller loans the money and is also able to charge very high interest as the buyer has no alternative. Even if the buyer goes bust the seller is much better off than had he allowed you to walk away. Keep us posted on the outcome.





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30 Mar 2009 7:55 PM by chidgey Star rating in bristol. 11 posts Send private message

i have got to complete on a property in 4 weeks but  the property has depriciated by 30.000euros plus.

and the bank has reduced the lending rate  so therefore after already  placing a 45,000euro deposit therefore unless i find the shortfall i have to walk away losing all 45,000euros . iam now having to visit spain and pay my lawyer 100's of euros to cancel the contract. (if it is only 6,000euros you are losing then walk away)





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31 Mar 2009 7:22 AM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9402 posts Send private message

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Legal tip 57. New, unexpected circumnstances... can I cancel my contract?
Tuesday, March 17, 2009 @ 11:25 AM

 

 

Relatively often, once a contract is signed, there are events beyond the control of the contracting parties which substantially alter the contractual circumstances; the inevitable result is that certain effects violate the due contractual balance.
 
These cases of unexpected change of contractual circumstances produce numerous problems that need to be solved by the Legal System, regardless of the silence of the Law or the foresight or anticipation of the signatories of the contract.
 
A clear example of this are, in my opinion, off plan contract purchases, where external financing was part of the contract assumptions in relation to the current situation derived from the credit crunch.
 
Supreme Court Case Law in Spain resort to the legal principle "rebus sic stantibus" as an instrument to try to mitigate the consequences of the imbalance produced by the alteration of the contractual circumstances. This High Court understands that all contracts with deferred completion have this implicit clause by which alteration of circumstances legally demands the adaptation of contract clauses to new reality and therefore, obligatory enforceability of original contract obligations is somehow questioned or modified. (The Latin statement for that is: contractus qui habent tractum succesivum vel dependentiam de futuro rebus sic stantibus intelligitur).
 
Anyhow, the application of the clause by the Supreme Court is restrictive and conditioned to the following facts:
 
1.     Extraordinary event happening between circumstances existing at the moment of the signing and those existing at the moment of fulfilment or completion.
 
2.     Exorbitant disproportion of reciprocal obligations arising out of the extraordinary event.
 
3.     No other compensation legal mechanism being practicable.
 
4.     New circumstances being entirely unforeseeable by the parties when the contract was signed.
 
5.     Good faith and no responsibility by the claimer.
 
Virtuality of the clause "rebus sic stantibus," understood as adaptation of  the content of the  contract ( revision) or a declaration of their ineffectiveness ( cancellation) in the future, is not the result of any contractual agreement, nor a presumed clause, but one of the rules of contractual mandatory integration under Article 1258 of the Civil Code, which is applicable to contracts with deferred completions:  

"Contracts are perfected by mere consent, and since then require not only compliance with what has been expressly agreed, but also with all the consequences that according to their nature, are consistent with good faith use and Law
 
 
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10 Apr 2009 4:48 PM by pepino Star rating. 14 posts Send private message

"4.     New circumstances being entirely unforeseeable by the parties when the contract was signed. "
 
 
You would expect the developer to argue that economic circumstances fluctuate over time and that the downturn in economic activity was far from "entirley unforseeable".  “Emptor caveat” applies in English law.
Are there any recent cases where a contract has been successfully avoided on these grounds?

 





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