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22 Sep 2013 1:39 PM by RichA4 Star rating. 351 posts Send private message

Hi all, i've posted this on my own community forum without much success, i'm trying to order some electrical items from worten to be delivered when i arrive next week as they have some great offers on  , setting up an account is easy but the final part of the  process  i need to put in my CIF number (required field) so no getting around , i'm a non resident so i don't have one , so far my passport and NIE number do not work .

Can anyone help .

 

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22 Sep 2013 1:48 PM by elaineG Star rating in Spain . 409 posts Send private message

NIE / NIF =  Número de Identificación Fiscal (for individuals)
CIF =          Certificado de Identificación Fiscal (for companies)

 

So NIE (whch is same as NIF) should be OK





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22 Sep 2013 1:58 PM by RichA4 Star rating. 351 posts Send private message

Thanks elaine , i tried that but still doesn't work.



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22 Sep 2013 4:04 PM by elaineG Star rating in Spain . 409 posts Send private message

I believe the NIE should comprise nine digits without any spaces.  If you have a space it will almost certainly not be accepted.





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22 Sep 2013 4:23 PM by RichA4 Star rating. 351 posts Send private message

Thanks again elaine , tried that too with same results .



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22 Sep 2013 4:53 PM by Team GB Star rating. 1245 posts Send private message

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Its looking for 8 numbers and one letter (at the end) without spaces



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22 Sep 2013 7:56 PM by henryreed Star rating in Berkhamsted Herts an.... 154 posts Send private message

my NIE is letter/ eight numbers/ letter

that works on m tax return





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22 Sep 2013 8:05 PM by Team GB Star rating. 1245 posts Send private message

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But you are not doing your tax return!

Try your eight numbers and last letter without spaces



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22 Sep 2013 8:25 PM by RichA4 Star rating. 351 posts Send private message

Thanks for the suggestion, I've tried my NIE number in every was possible, with no success, when Google Chrome translates it say please insert a valid vat number.

Maybe on Spanish cam order online.?

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22 Sep 2013 8:31 PM by Team GB Star rating. 1245 posts Send private message

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Rich

Don't use translate.

I have a account with Worten and my first 8 numbers and last letter works fine.(no spaces)

Maybe clear cookies or try another browser or open another account

Give it another go with 8 random numbers and a letter



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22 Sep 2013 8:45 PM by RichA4 Star rating. 351 posts Send private message

Tried a different browser and my NIE didn't work, tried 8 random numbers plus a letter and it accepted it?
Why has it done this, is it okay to go ahead and place the order with incorrect NIE number.

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22 Sep 2013 9:44 PM by henryreed Star rating in Berkhamsted Herts an.... 154 posts Send private message

Hi Richard, just been plowing through a spanish security contract tender and noticed the  company "was incorporated on **/**/**** with  CIF*********** so could be  company reg number. Why Worten should require this for a consumer order I dont know.





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22 Sep 2013 9:47 PM by Team GB Star rating. 1245 posts Send private message

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I'm afaid you will have to work that one out yourself  indecision



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22 Sep 2013 10:06 PM by RichA4 Star rating. 351 posts Send private message

Worten is the only site that asks for cif only , others give you the option either passport. NIE, cif, ect , still don't underdtand why my NIE number was rejected and yet a random one accepted .Not sure its safe to order .



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23 Sep 2013 10:56 AM by elaineG Star rating in Spain . 409 posts Send private message

  Rich,  I tried using my NIE, on my existing account,  and got the same problem.

  I have sent a message to Wortens asking for advice.

I will let you know the result.





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23 Sep 2013 11:47 AM by RichA4 Star rating. 351 posts Send private message

Thanks Elaine.

I've also emailed them several times but had no response as yet, hopefully you might get better luck.

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23 Sep 2013 4:56 PM by foxbat Star rating in Granada. 1112 posts Send private message

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RichA4...

Not trying to teach granny to suck eggs or anything but I just tried (successfully) to register with Worten. At no point was I asked to produce a CIF number, only name and email address and planned password, which prompts me to suggest this...

On the registration page, right at the top, one is

given a choice of two checkboxes, 'Particulares' or 'Empresas'.

Only Empresas, (businesses), would have a CIF number... This could be where the confusion is arising. You as an individual, online shopper ,.ie not a business,  should register as 'Particulares' by ticking that box. Having filled in the required fields for forename, surname, email addy and planned password, click on 'Enviar'. Worten will, a few minutes later send an email to your given email address which requires you to click on a confirmation link contained within the text. In my case gmail sent the email to my spam folder so check there as well as your inbox.... When you click on the link in the email from Worten, you will be able to access 'Mi Cuenta'

Hope this helps.

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23 Sep 2013 6:01 PM by RichA4 Star rating. 351 posts Send private message

Thanks for the reply foxbat, I did exactly that and registered as an individual that's no problem I have registered an account, I've just done it again with my other email to make sure, when I go into the control panel and enter

Dirección de facturación por defecto(billing address)

Or if I try to place tje order the cif number request is still there.

Both accounts I now have are for particulares and both still request cif when I try to complete my order.

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23 Sep 2013 6:07 PM by RichA4 Star rating. 351 posts Send private message

 

This is a screen shot of the new account I've just set up to make  sure it's not a business account and under billing and postal address it's still asking for Cif.



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23 Sep 2013 7:00 PM by foxbat Star rating in Granada. 1112 posts Send private message

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RichA4... OK... I havent got around to doing the mailing and account addresses  yet so will investigate further and get back to you. Will be later tonight because my hands are full of 7 starving dogs waiting walkies and dinner!

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