Just Testing

Max and I discussed this issue with the administrator. The 1st step is to get the pools working, then get the licence. Until we get the licence we wont know what if any restrictions have been imposed on it's use or whether a life guard is required. I will be pushing to get access to the pools for at least 6 months and the administrator seemed receptive to this subject to town hall restrictions.

Hi i would like to inform everyone who completed after 1st october the administrator is instisting everyone has to pay there communal charge from1october weather you sign like me on 14 november or if you have not completed yet you still have to pay back months charges from  this day.I have informed david of this and i hope this is being brought up at the meeting as not everyone can sign and get there keys to there apt on or before  1 october .So i have  not paid for october as i think this is wrong so if that make us not have a vote in january i dont care bye  irene/peter


This message was last edited by irenemontague on 1/4/2008.

Hi Irene, I think that is absurd! How can they ask you to pay for the time when you are not in possession of the property. Are you sure they have got this correct? If this is the case then frankly I would not pay for that month somehow I do not see them taking action for €80 to 100 odd! I am having hard enough a job trying to get them to deal with a more serious matter and they so far have yet to deliver.

Hi rg i had a letter in my post box saying  what my charges where so we have paid this but i am not paying for when i did not own.So will the 20 people who have not signed yet have to pay from october when the community fees where set as they are saying in the administrator office that we all have to pay from 1 october bye irene/peter

First no one paid  for september the gardens where layed only the cleaning and bins have been instilled.or is there some think else i am missing even if you all  paid for  september every little payments helps and if you think the 20 people who have not signed yet will pay from 1 october think again irene/peter

Max I understand what you are saying but really all these things ought to have been in place prior to anyone signing for completion and whilst some things were in place many things were not such as lifts street lighting & actually being able to use the bins garages etc and it makes no sense to collect money from owners that have just completed for previous months and then offer a refund (somehow I do not see that happening). Additionally why have they started collecting money from October when some completed in September? Seeing everything so far including the other little matter which you know about I have to say I am not impressed.

Hi i would like to say i am not inpressed with what i seen on my first visit other than bins and street signs.there should have been signs to fine dog owners who dirty on the gardens and paths.We should all have been informed of the communal charges in advanced of completing and when we have to pay from.I also feel we are not having a proper say on what we would like and who does are services and who does are sky tv if we get it ,and what water company we get and when do we get lights in our storage rooms as they are use less with out lights and yes i have 2 torches we use.Idont like people making choices for me on what i would and would not want this is are community and we all should have a say.I had a time share apt and we charged people to use the sun loungers around the pools and this went to help pay for are lifeguards and pay for new chairs bye irene/peter


This message was last edited by irenemontague on 1/4/2008.

I have just come back from Don Juan. One morning I came out of our apartment and saw a women walking her dog. She stopped and let the dog crap all over the grass and then walked off. I think something needs to be done about that. It shows no respect for others and is a health hazard to the young children on the complex. I felt like picking it up and shoving it in her mouth, maybe then she might think again about doing it. I think this issue needs to be brought up at the next meeting. Maybe issue fines for not picking it up, putting signs up or even better ban dogs all together, like other communities.

Westport

 

Happy New Year to everyone at Don Juan!

I completed towards the end of September and the only thing that I could see happening at Don Juan was cleaners moving mops around on the staircase steps & rear floors to the entrance of the apartments. I must say though that I had a very enjoyable 10 days there in mid October, but the reality was the following:- No pools, no lights in store rooms, no lights on main road up to site, no working bins, no lights in gardens etc...Luckily I had an apartment else I would have probably needed a tent! :-)

I'm happy to pay the community charge from the day that I moved in, but other than the cleaners moving mops around what else happened in Sept & Oct that could be considered as a chargeable event to the community?? This is not a dig at Max just my personal perception of the whole situation.

Whilst I'm on the community subject, does anybody know which is the best place to get up to date info about our Don Juan community? This eye on Spain site or our new community web site? I think that if eye on Spain is the main place to access info about Don Juan then maybe Maximo should start posting replies on this site.

I will be installing aircon in my apartment sometime prior to June this year and I would like to be informed of the community rules concerning aircon prior to this date. Preferably not by a letter in my cement encrusted post box! I like a large % of owners at Don Juan do not live in their apartments full time and I believe the best way of circulating info is by email followed by a hard copy in the post box.

I don’t like posting negative replies all the time but I get very frustrated about things happening or not happening at Don Juan and wish that I could be in Spain to help with the running of the DJ community.

Regards, Andy

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Please let people have there dogs if they have  move in with them but could they refrain from letting the dogs dirty on the grass or the pavements and yes pick it up as each time the lady above me went out with the dog so did i and when she saw me see picked the dog muck up and yes we fine people £50 in england for this.There are places where dogs can go at the side of the roads a few steps more to walk and get fit as well bye irene

If anybody lets their dog mess on the grass or anywhere and omits to clean it up they should be fined . It is disgusting and unhealthy . If people cant take care of the mess their dogs make they shouldnt have dogs. 50 euros for the first fine going up 10 euros each time until they learn.

If they had to pay £50 like in england not 50 euros there would not be any dog muck around irene

This message was last edited by max! on 1/5/2008.

I will be on site to check the dog muck for the next 2 weeks and bag it to show you and if i have to pay for a sign on our notice board i will and i will be be meeting alot of people regarding my concerns.It seems to me by not telling people the had to pay from 1 october everyone is not aware of this so they are all in areas so only the people who are not in areas get a vote ?good  roll on september 08 and yes women do have a vote and want to be heard see you soon irene

There was 10 or 20 people who completed in september but there was alot of people who completed in october .more people completed in october than any other month so there was alot of people paying for services that month.As for the water company i dont understand if the first water company put all the pipes in at there own expence why change everythink.If as you said we the owners changed the cleaning and other service from when as i did not know this was on the list to change at the meeting 1st or 2nd meeting and if we the owners can change our services the builder had why can we not use the first water company as the builder has only one vote like most of us now or  have i missed somethink as i did read the notes of the meeting and as for the cleaners i asked there advice on what to buy for our floors and they told me the stuff they get to clean the floors was rubbish stuff so how can they clean properly .Everyone be aware be at the metting and pay your community fees to voit for what you want as you are paying for  this bye irene


This message was last edited by irenemontague on 1/5/2008.

I am not making these issues to you personaly nor do i fell you have to answer me at any time on this web site as other people tell me whats wrong but on my first visit i could not walk to my apt with out having to go round the dog muck ,i will at any time clean and pick up this dog muck and i cleaned up peoples rubbish and carried it to the bins myself on my last visit there but we all have to  look after where we live.You have enought to do running your company i dont expect you to see every think as i now this is not your job but where can people air the views as i am not living there yet and yes i am keen to make don juan a nice place to live like all of us and yes we need to have as much in put as  possible on every issue as i am sure every one else is feeling the same so if one thing upsets us we all should no bye irene

Irene,

My understanding of the water situation is that the developer for unknown reasons dealt with the Acosol water supply company for the Don Juan installation. However it transpired that the Town Hall or some other authority had granted exclusive water supply rights in the Carvajal area to a different company named Gestagua.  Therefore it was probably a condition of the First Occupation Licence that Gestagua be contracted to supply water to Don Juan.  Gestagua were not happy with aspects of the water installation work done by Acosol or the developer and are insisting that it be modified to their standards. The developer had to provide a €80,000 guarantee to satisfy this and no doubt the required work will soon be completed, however in the meantime we are on the "builder's supply".  Incidentally, as far as I know, there is a clause in our contracts specifically prohibiting us from dealing with Acosol.  In other words this matter is completely out of our hands and we have no say in changing it. I hope this clarifies the matter for you and please forgive me if anything I have outlined is inaccurate.

As far as dog muck is concerned I think owners should clean up as a matter of course as with any kind of litter.  However, how to enforce this is a different question and I am all for doing our best to educate people in general and dog owners in particular about their responsibilities in this regard. Notices in every block together with specific and repeat mention in community literature to owners would be a start.

There is no doubt that many teething problems remain to be sorted out and we are relying on our Community officials and administrator to do this for us, and naturally they are not miracle workers so it will take time.  As non paid officials who are willing to devote a lot of their private time to looking after community affairs on our behalf, I am sure everyone agrees that it is important to regularly thank them for their efforts and show our appreciation.

i thought the matter about the dogs has to be brought up to be put on the agender so all of us would no that not every one was happy with this,the area where i am not happy with the dogs in out side the pool area where the childrens pool is on the grass between block 8 and 10 even if they pick it up there is still germs left there.As for the water company i felt the builder had done a deal with the company and he would not change it till i read what you said thank you.Also it is not only in  england where dog owners are fined it is in most cuntries now and dogs are not allowed to dirty any grass areas.If we let the dog owners do what they want we will end up having to replace the lawns as the grass will die of .As i said before i dont mind anyone having a dog just go a few steps further with the dogs to the road side is that to much for them to do i dont  think so.I dont have a log in yet for the other site to put anythink on there i hope it s in the apt on the my paper work i will get that next week thank you irene/peter