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29 Jun 2011 00:00 by rod Star rating in Uk and Spain. 469 posts Send private message

Has anyone please used Rosetta Stone language products

Are they worth the investment any advice much appreciated

Regards Rod

 





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29 Jun 2011 15:39 by campana Star rating in Marbella. 474 posts Send private message

29 Jun 2011 15:50 by mike_walsh Star rating in Torrevieja. 594 posts Send private message

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I often wonder if children would pick up their own national language if it was taught to them as many of these courses do. Children immerse themselves in their mother tongue. They listen, repeat and learn not 1 hour a week but 24/7. They are exposed to radio, television, books family and friends. As a consequence children as young as 18-months are richly elequent; they only really started 12-months earlier.

I believe watching TV is an excellent way to pick up a new language. You can enjoy the programme as the pictures and the body language conveys much of what is going on. Television adverts are brilliant as, presumably for deaf persons, they put in screen words much of the spoken message. So you learn pronuniation too.

I believe 40 percent of the Spanish language is close to the English language: It isn't a new word, it is simply a new pronunciation. Elevator is a good example. We know how we say it. They say it Ellie-vat-or.



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29 Jun 2011 15:52 by mike_walsh Star rating in Torrevieja. 594 posts Send private message

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Congrats, Patricia, on reaching 200 posts. Justin sends you a holiday voucher; a fortnight's cruise around the Bahamas. We will miss you   ;o)



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29 Jun 2011 16:08 by campana Star rating in Marbella. 474 posts Send private message

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Heh heh Mike.

Isn't this website just full of surprises and unexpected generosity!

Suitcase open here on the floor beside me.  Just choosing the bikinis - wonder should I pack the gold lamé one as well, or maybe the silver leather with rhinestones might be more discreet.

Patricia





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29 Jun 2011 16:16 by mike_walsh Star rating in Torrevieja. 594 posts Send private message

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To which it must be added that arm-candy must have her own rugged (not rug 'ead) on call and ready to accompany her on such exotic island jaunts; a girl dressed as you describe could attract wanted and unwanted attention. The downside is (Justin's rules) is that you must return pure and undefiled. See, there's a catch to everything. Life sometimes sucks!



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30 Jun 2011 02:03 by EOS Team Star rating in In Spain of course!. 4016 posts Send private message

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Erm, yes, err, tickets are in the post....

Justin



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30 Jun 2011 22:54 by TOAD Star rating. 3 posts Send private message

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01 Jul 2011 14:16 by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5180 posts Send private message

Mike_Walsh

 

Interesting idea that Elevator is a Spanish word.  !!!

 

Ascensor (Esp) = evelator (USA)   = lift (UK)





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01 Jul 2011 20:23 by Roberto Star rating in Torremolinos. 4467 posts Send private message

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Yeah, I was puzzled by that one too! Maybe they use it in some obscure Central American banana republic?

Not too sure about the "40%" stat either. Whilst the two languages may be distantly related (both Indo-European), one is Germanic, the other Romantic, and I think you need to be careful about assuming similar words have similar meanings; whilst a discusión in Spanish can refer to a discussion, it often refers to an argument. And an argumento in Spanish can refer to the plot of the story. Just putting a Spanish sounding pronunciation onto English words and hoping for the best can lead to very embarrasing situations - such as telling someone you are very embarazado !!!



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01 Jul 2011 21:24 by campana Star rating in Marbella. 474 posts Send private message

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Tee hee Roberto.

Heh heh.  Target is not a "tarjeta" but an "objectivo", and a bigot is definitely not a "bigote" but an "intolerante".

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01 Jul 2011 21:38 by campana Star rating in Marbella. 474 posts Send private message

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Seems a lift is an "elevador" down México way.





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01 Jul 2011 22:44 by abbbb1 Star rating in Essex and Ciudad Que.... 306 posts Send private message

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...and maybe bigots have bigotes!!



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01 Jul 2011 22:50 by bobaol Star rating. 2257 posts Send private message

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 Elevador is a lift in Portugese.  

One of the biggest, second only Otis, maker of elevators is Schindler.  My wife did laugh the first time when I told her we were on Schindlers Lift but, after the hundredth time, she doesn't find it funny any more.

 

 



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01 Jul 2011 22:59 by campana Star rating in Marbella. 474 posts Send private message

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You beat me to it, Abbb!

And not just the male ones! 

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02 Jul 2011 00:02 by abbbb1 Star rating in Essex and Ciudad Que.... 306 posts Send private message

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Couldn't resist that one


 

On another front, about learning Spanish.  I went to classes (England); progressed on to Spanish penfriends; talk on Skype; read Spanish books,  and every time I go to Spain I not only drop in on conversation classes, but also try to speak Spanish at every opportunity, and watch Spanish TV.  I tried Linguaphone and others, but they weren't for me - too long winded and many didn't have relevant matter



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02 Jul 2011 10:52 by jek Star rating. 249 posts Send private message

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Collins Spanish-English Dictionary carries elevador as a Spanish (Castellano) word and translates it as "elevator (US); lift (England)".   It also carries ascensor with the same translation.  Language isn't a static thing; it is a living thing and new words are introduced all the time, mainly by young people but also through the influence of television.  Elevador is a good example of the huge influence of US English on languages all over the world - even though it is not the most widely used first language apparently, trailing Mandarin and Spanish. 

It's also worth remembering that many words have more than one meaning in all languages.  So when Roberto points out that argumento means the plot of a book, we have to remember that argument has the same meaning in English.  And argument can also mean discussion or debate - depends who's involved.





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02 Jul 2011 11:35 by EOS Team Star rating in In Spain of course!. 4016 posts Send private message

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Well as long as we keep this as a friendly argumento then that's great

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02 Jul 2011 14:25 by campana Star rating in Marbella. 474 posts Send private message

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Indeed, Justin.  I often ponder on how wonderful it must be to know absolutely everything.  Nice word: sabelotodo

 

 





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02 Jul 2011 14:31 by abbbb1 Star rating in Essex and Ciudad Que.... 306 posts Send private message

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Or

La sabiduria consiste en saber que se sabe lo que se sabe y saber que no se sabe lo que se sabe!!!!



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