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A friend who has an apartment in Man 3 B1 showed me a recent email from the administrators. He wont post on here but I thought you should all know what was in that email.  He had complained about the general upkeep.  In the reply  the administrators stated they are owed €62,000 in unpaid community fees that is just for Bloque 1, just 90/92 apartments....THIS IS FRIGHTENING. My friend lost a sale to some Dutch people who thought it generally scruffy. Are the administrators inept at collecting debts? What is the overall situation on community debts for Manzana 3? With so much money not being collected is it no wonder the maintanance is not what it should be. Below is a copy of the email from the administrators. The email for the administrators is escudero@escuderoadministraciones.es

With reference to your e-mail of yesterday we would like to inform you we know that there are some tasks listed to improve Manzana 3 but pending as there is only in your block an outstanding debt of 62.091.49 Euros and this when we almost daily contact these debtors by telephone, e-mail or fax.

The grass will be cut now weekly until the end of the summer and the weeds have been treated recently so this should improve in due course.

The missing  tiles is normal after 4 years but there is not enough money to get this repaired at the moment. Anyway, it is not dangerous.

We have also spoken to the head of the cleaners to improve their works as lately we had more complaints. From next monday, a girl will be starting to work, only and exclusively at your block, but the garaje is not included in the contract.

The garbage left in the garaje, a lot of times is from the people who live there and don't feel walking to the containers.

We advised Telecomunicaciones to revise the pannels on the walls.

The doors have been repaired in several occations but it seems that some people have fun by braking these again. The gratches are normal and these will be repainted after having repaired/solved more important tasks.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Escudero Administraciones S.L.

This is the same position with a lot of the manzana's.  Maintenance fees are not being paid by most of those people who have not yet completed on the purchase on their apartments (although the Developer is paying for those apartments that remain unsold on their books).  In the meantime the administration are struggling to keep the place going on reduced contributions. This situation should improve over the longer term, especially after the LFO's get sorted.

if you add block 7 into the equation its no wonder the community  is in trouble. is there any news on the LFO situation. There seems to be a news black out.

i thought at the last agm they agreed to chase these debts 


This message was last edited by jamesyvonne on 5/25/2008.

In answer to your questions, actions are being taken against the people who have not paid their community fees, but there is a flaw.  

Notices have been served to the guilty parties, in the form of a court summons.  These are placed into the letterboxes of the apartments, clearly giving a date when they are to go to court.  I know because we were one of those who had not paid the first community charge payment  we had our reasons and we took advise from the solicitors.  ( we have now).  

We arrived in Spain in April, to find one had been placed into our letterbox,  saying we were in court in 2 days time.  Not understanding what it was for, because part was in English and part was in Spainish, and nowhere did it say what it was.   We decided to go down to the Courts.  It was for the balance of the community charges.  We also contacted a friend of ours who has an apartment above, and hasn't completed, they are trying to get their money back from the developers but enough said about).  They asked me to check their mail box for the same.  They hadn't got one, but we did notice that there were others placed in the letter boxes who like us don't liver there and may only visit occassionally.  

 I mentioned it to our solictors about the court summons whislt on other business, and they said that in order for the Court Order to become legal, the owners had to be served direct by a court official, and that they had to sign to say they had received them.  They contacted the Administrators on our  friends behalf to find if they too would be summonded to court for non payment of community fees, and they were told the Administrators were only chasing the owners who had already completed on their apartments.  People who have not completed, MAY be taken to court at a later stage.

If the owners weren't at their apartment to sign,  they can't inforce the court hearing.  If the apartments are in joint names, then both parties have to be served .  

Another date has to be issued until the owners have signed to say they have received the notification.

What I want to know is how much is it costing the Administrators to keep re issuing these cout summons when they know the owners may not live there.


I read with dismay about the Adminstrtors who are emailing and faxing etc people, because we have never had a word from them, and I know they have all our details.

As to the missing tiles, is this not the responsibility of the developers to put it right?  Does no one insure the buildings in general.  

We also noticed in our store, all the plaster is coming away from the walls, where its damp.

This message was last edited by Pammie on 5/27/2008.

This message was last edited by Pammie on 5/27/2008.