The Clover

I always found them pleasant enough...it was the fact it could take half an hour to find that out that was the problem.

In the area of getting someone a drink in a reasonable time the Clover was the worst bar I'd ever encountered.  Its the only bar I have left (more than once) because I couldn't get a drink...and this is while it wasn't even two deep at the bar.

When the buckets of beer came in, it was great, not because of the price but because you didn't need to get served as much.

So maybe you were lucky.  In saying that the Clover could have been a fantastic asset to CdA.  That is the most dissappointing thing for me.  Can only hope it re-opens without the same issues.

Lets be honest here!!!  The Clover should have been a goldmine for the 3 years it had the monopoly on CDA unfortunately they charged rip off prices, played the music the flipsy flopsy bar staff wanted to listen to rather than the customers, played it too loud so you couldn't hold a conversation and what was the bloody obscession with constantly dimming the lights until you could hardly see!! it was poorly run and far too expensive and certainly not customer focused.........   What a fantastic opportuntiy it will be for the new owners and you would be mad not to learn from the cock up mistakes Polaris made in their running of it........... DON'T RIP PEOPLE OFF AND THEY WILL COME BACK                               RIP THEM OFF AT YOUR PERIL.........   Its not rocket science

 

This message was last edited by smivs on 19/11/2011.

 I would think it's a fantastic opportununity for any new owners to come into this bar.

They would not need to refurb it and everything is in place. It just needs more realistic prices and to be customer focused. Bring this together and they will have a very succesful bar on their hands.

I would be very suprised if someone did not come along and take up this option.

 

 

 clover staff

patricia has got her self a very good job in murica where she lives

mike is now working at the condado club(as well as his girfriend and luiz who you will remember once ran the clover and more recently was at the cave retaurant)

the other 2 girls are looking for work

it should nt be too long before it is up and running again and has had at least 3 offers to take it over  and i have also heard that the block to its right as you leave it will be a new bar run by the liverpool lottery winning brothers.

I'm sure the Clover will open again as everybody knows that it could have been a decent business if it had of been run by people who actually gave a hoot about it, which the staff clearly didn't, as practically everybody complained about it.
The Clover's inability to please customers is emphasised in the fact that it only lasted for a month when it had a bit of competition, so I have no sympathy for it as I'm a business owner who knows that business is simply a case of, 'Survival of the fittest', and although I'm Extremely sad the Clovr has closed, I am not at all surprised because it was nothing other than terribly run and not like an up and coming, thriving business at all, but more like a bad council managed leisure Center, where nobody got fired because there was no boss.
I have no doubt that the Clover will open again and it's gonna be better, as a pair of chimps could have run the Clover better than it was run for the past two years or so.
I'm sorry if the staff lost their jobs, but maybe they shoulda thought about that more when they were playing Spanish dance music so loud that nobody could hear anybody else talking even tho they were standing 6 inches away from them.
There was supposed to be a small town centre built beside the tennis courts and the Clover at Al Kasar was a poor attempt to make up for not building any town centres anywhere on CDA and the staff of the Clover obviously took it for granted that the Clover was the only bar that CDA had to offer and customers could like it or lump it, so hopefully a lesson learned there by them and the many many hundreds of residents on the Jardins, who bought on the Jardins because of the proposed small town centre at the tennis courts, who had to walk 20 minutes from Jardin 1 to a poorly run Clover bar,who won't really shed many tears.
The Condado Club owners stuck their necks out to give CDA 'Exactly' what we wanted and have been needing, so Thank you Condado Club and unless the Clover was to open and become a very different bar, it will never be successful, or missed that much, especially by residents in the Jardins.
So hopefully someone with a brain will open the Clover and hopefully change its name and brighten it up, as who on earth wants to go from dark and gloomy pubs in the UK and Ireland, to a dark and gloomy pub in Spain, it's a total useless mess.
Get a life Clover management.........lol

I agree with most of what Geoff says but take great umbrage about the Chimp comment as I think that it is condescending to Chimps!!!

Morgan 7567

In response to your query about where I got my information from I'm afraid in the main it has been from the forums- but, my ex partner was at CdA in September  and got talking to a group of people over several evenings. One couple is friendly with one of the Presidents and said they'd been told the rental on the units at Al Kasar has been reduced and so there have been many enquiries. IRM dont want property developers/estate agents to take up units and had 'agreed' to another bar, pizza and Indian restaurants  a bakery and also a pharmacy and they want them all in situ by March. However, how correct the term 'agreed' is I dont know.

In some places I visit across Europe units in small town centres such as our close down from end of Oct to end of March and reopen when the season is starting again. Whilst rental etc has still to be paid it is a way to reduce outgoings, though staff lose out. Usually one bar remains open  and a food outlet. Even then they may cut back on their opening hours. If owners have other establishments in more residential urbanisations they often then focus on those to carry them through the down time. One bar owner I know who has a place of a similar size to The Clover puts up dividing screens and reduces the size of the place in the off season, the atmosphere remains good as people are concentrated in a smaller area and his electricity costs are cut by half. That could have been done in The Clover.

I'm also noticing flights are no were near as good as in previous years even if you look far ahead- that's a disappointing downturn as it will reduce impulse visitors.

Originally we should have had the Foro by the sports Zone and the Agora over on the far side of the resort to cater for the MIrador apartments, which never got built. Al Kasar wasnt ever part of the plans but its true that our resort just can't financially sustain so many outlets yet. I think the Condado Club has great potential as a bar and it's certainly providing all the things people asked for, very family orientated- I just dont see it as a pub and thats why we have to hope the Clover re-opens because not only do we need a choice or venue but also variety of styles. If there's yet another bar too then that will be excellent. Personally I think the cost of developing those units into a proper outlet must be exorbitant , they are so vast.

I wish there was someone or somewhere where information such as we are talking about could be posted- I often feel there are people in 'the know' and then the rest of us who have to manage wilth rumour and conjecture rather than real knowledge.

I think that improving the football pitches can go some way into bring people into the resort at different times of the year and this may help to sustain outlets at Al Kasar. The local community used to use the football pitches and then go in The CLover.

As people have said PW didnt run The Clover well and that has certainly led to its decline. HOwever I think that not everyone wants to go out to a pub regularly throughout their holiday or visit and as CdA isn't quite as busy as everyone might hope even in high season this lack of use also has had an impact. By the by I'm not saying we should all have to go to The Clover regualrly just that the natural ebb and flow of use will have had an impact as well. Its much cheaper to sit on your own terrace or a neighbours with a beer afterall and doesnt include that long walk!

If we ever get to the point of being a busy resort I'm recommending someone starts a rickshaw taxi business on the resort!