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03 Jan 2011 10:56 PM by Mad Golfer Star rating in Ireland. 176 forum posts Send private message

Thanks Ptan

I had commented to my husband when out last year that many of the Jardines pergolas looked different. We are in Jardine 5 - do you know our colour?

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04 Jan 2011 2:21 PM by lytton Star rating in Bath & North East So.... 422 forum posts Send private message

Phil

Do you know if ML have a list of what each Jardine has to be regarding the actual colour ? I have been trying to get this from them but had no response.

I'm on the Jardines Naranjos 7 and intend to paint mine when I come out but want to know what colour stain I would need in advance.

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04 Jan 2011 5:58 PM by leigh_bristol Star rating in Bristol. 243 forum posts Send private message

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hi all i painted my wood with clear varnish




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04 Jan 2011 6:48 PM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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 Hi Phil,

Naranjos 7? Now there's a good one.  The down stairs is Nogal.  The Upstairs is mostly Nogal, but the beam outside the front door looks like either Castino or Caoba ( just been and the light is going )

So, as on one is going to buy two different colours, I'd do it all in Nogal as that's the darker colour.  

I'd do it in a proper preservative as this includes an insecticide and fungicide as well as giving sun and water protection.

MG,  I'll take a look at J5 in the next few days.

 

 



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04 Jan 2011 6:48 PM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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 Hi Phil,

Naranjos 7? Now there's a good one.  The down stairs is Nogal.  The Upstairs is mostly Nogal, but the beam outside the front door looks like either Castino or Caoba ( just been and the light is going )

So, as on one is going to buy two different colours, I'd do it all in Nogal as that's the darker colour.  

I'd do it in a proper preservative as this includes an insecticide and fungicide as well as giving sun and water protection.

MG,  I'll take a look at J5 in the next few days.

 

 



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04 Jan 2011 10:26 PM by tee .t Star rating in stirling area. 12 forum posts Send private message

Hi Phil

I also live on Naranjos 7, painted ours with Nogal, got it from Brico on Camposol.

Our neighbour also painted theirs with the same colour.

One small tin does full upstairs apartment(just) and costs approx 20 euros.

 



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05 Jan 2011 2:47 PM by lytton Star rating in Bath & North East So.... 422 forum posts Send private message

Thanks guys, at least I know what to get and where to get it when I come out. I didn't want to spend most of the time just finding the paint and having little time to lie back and enjoy the results !!!!

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11 Jan 2011 11:46 PM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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Hi All, There is a "rumour" being put around that he community is about to start the painting of the pergolas and charge the owners "around 130€ to 160€ per apartment"  This is completely fictional 

As per one of my previous postings the pergola situation has completely changed.

As posted on the community website the actual statement made by the community was :-

Condado de Alhama, 20th December 2010 

Dear Owners, 

It is our personal and professional interest to provide all the owners 

of the Condado de Alhama community with our best service as 

Estate Managers. 

Our aim and obligation is to administrate, defend,  inform, prevent, 

control and preserve, the community property and common areas in 

the best way possible to each and everyone of you, always working 

according to the general statutes and community rules agreed by all 

you and according to our responsibility and obligation to assure they 

are done. You can be assured of our impartiality when applying the 

measures to achieve conformance to the statutes in a way that we 

hope will be to the benefit and defence of you all.

Article. LEVEL II art. 5a. Item 3

• The community carries out the maintenance of facades, gardens, 

outside spaces and pools of the urbanization. The maintenance of 

the facades will be done at least each five years and will be paid 

from the community funds. For that, the relevant figure will be 

estimated in one or several budgets. The works will be carried out 

with the relevant contract between the community and the chosen 

contractor.

Therefore, to avoid inappropriate misunderstandings, we inform you 

that : 

The pergolas within the private properties are a private element and 

the cost of their maintenance will not be met by the community.  

Perhaps our last notification about the maintenance of the pergolas 

in the properties did not clarify our intention correctly; which was to 

inform you about the obligations of the owners for maintaining and 

looking after the conservation of the pergolas.

Without annual painting with the proper protector, there is the risk of 

cracking or possibly breaking which may lead to accidents resulting 

in hazards and unnecessary costs, which can be avoided if you 

annually perform adequate maintenance, as we suggested in our 

first communication on the subject in August 2010.

Since the Pergolas are a private element, but affect the common 

exterior aesthetics of the buildings, which is to everyone’s interest, 

we would like to inform you of your obligation and  responsibility for 

their maintenance with the aim of maintaining the aesthetic and 

uniformity of the properties within Condado de Alhama.

If you personally cannot manage this maintenance by yourself or 

need any kind of information about it, the Estate manager would be 

happy to offer you all the help and cooperation you might require.

As always, offering you our services to make it easier for you. We 

take the opportunity to send you kindest regards. 

Sincerely yours

Javier Riquelme

Community Secretary  

MILENIUN LEVANTE Adminsitrador de Fincas, S. L.

 

So,  The staining of the Pergola is the responsibility of the owner.  The community will not paint them and will not be charging the owners "130€ to 160€" as stated in this rumour.

Why do people make this stuff up?

Phil

 



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12 Jan 2011 9:03 AM by stonephil Star rating in Stone Staffordshire .... 399 forum posts Send private message

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Did ours while out over Christmas, takes about 2 hours at the cost of the stain €22 and a brush €3.

Now looks better than when PW put them up.



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12 Jan 2011 2:05 PM by steviev Star rating. 40 forum posts Send private message

Hi all

We have been contacted by our keyholder saying that the Pergola will be painted by Milenium and we will be charged, also that we need to advise them if we intend to organise this ourselves.

Can anyone please clarify what the actual case is?

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Steve

 




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12 Jan 2011 2:20 PM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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 Hi Steve,

No, your key holder is a bit out of date with this information.  Mileniun did put out an email to that effect at the start of december, but after a few further meetings it was retracted.  ( see the notice on the community website, www.cdagr.eu ) 

The position now is that the lawyers have decreed that the pergolas are private property and so will not be maintained by the community.  ( See the full statement in my post below, or on www.cdagr.eu ) 

The community recommends that you repaint them to stop the deteriorating, but the community will not be undertaking this.  Of course if you do not paint them and they creak or rot then the owner will have to bare the cost of replacement. 

So,  we recommend that you paint them to keep them in good condition.  You can either do this yourselves or get someone to do it for you, this should cost between €60 and €90 euros if done properly with the recommended stain.

The recommended products are either ;-

Xyladecor -http://www.xyladecor.es/products/exterior/products_exterior_woodstain.html

or

Xylazel - http://www.xylazel.com/index.php?idMenu=2&idIdioma=1&padreURL=11&mostrarHijos=si&hijoURL=30

I believe that Matt is better as it soaks into the wood more, whereas the satin forms a film on the surface which is prone to flake in the sun.

At the end of the day the choice of product is down to you, you get what you pay for, the main thing is that 1) the wood is treated and 2) there is a uniformity of colour within the garden.

Which brings us to the next point.  Not all the Jardines use the same colour.

Jardine 8-13 NOGAL, but lower down some Jardines change.    La Isla - NOGAL.   Los Naranjos mostly NOGAL but some Caoba.  Penthouses - CASTANO,  WENGUE is on the gates only.

Yes I know, but before you all start moaning please remember that this is not the communities fault, Polaris did the original staining so the lack of a single uniform colour was down to them.

 

 

 



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12 Jan 2011 2:49 PM by steviev Star rating. 40 forum posts Send private message

Cheers, as ever, Phil

We are in Naranjos 2, do you know which colour it is, as its next door to you?

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12 Jan 2011 4:54 PM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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 Hi Steve,

You need Nogal.

 

 

 



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23 Mar 2011 7:01 PM by lytton Star rating in Bath & North East So.... 422 forum posts Send private message

Hi everyone,

I'm just bringing this back to the top as I intend to buy the stain when I'm out in late April. Now Brico has closed, does anyone know where I can get the paint. Based on Phil's advise (PTAN), I want to get the stain in Nogal.

Can anyone help on this ?

Thanks

Phil




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23 Mar 2011 7:06 PM by endpeg Star rating in Camposol. 112 forum posts Send private message

Hi Phil

Brico is still open , even the staff do not know the closing date , but they have no NOGAL.

Best place is Leroy Merlin in Murcia .

Speak Soon

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23 Mar 2011 8:01 PM by ian_golfer Star rating. 112 forum posts Send private message

Hi Phil, can you or Mileniun please advise the colour for Naranjos 4?

Ian 




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23 Mar 2011 9:44 PM by michaelhardy Star rating in Bishop Auckland & Ja.... 597 forum posts Send private message

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You can buy the stain in Tavi paint shop next door to Consum. Staff speak English and were very helpful



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23 Mar 2011 9:56 PM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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Hi Ian

You need Nogal. As micheal says you can get this from Tavi on Camposol



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23 Mar 2011 10:07 PM by ian_golfer Star rating. 112 forum posts Send private message

Thanks, perhaps this informtaion (and details for the other Naranjos gardens) could be posted on the community web-site? Not everybody reads EOS!

Ian




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23 Mar 2011 10:13 PM by roadster Star rating in Belfast, N. Ireland. 121 forum posts Send private message

I also got the stain from tavi it cost about 13€ the stain did our 2 bedroom apartment I was over in febuary back over 9th april for 7days .We are on garden 8 los naranjos anyone over from garden8  at the same time? Malc&carol



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