Membership of Corvera Legal Action Group - Important Announcement

Hi Ash

Please leave us in peace and stick to your private web site

I thought that it was a perfectly reasonable post.  What is bothering you 1234? 

I've just edited this to stress that I am asking this question in a non-confrontational manner - ie I just don't know your reasons for having a go?  Please let's be civil and not get into any more arguments with each other.

Hi Roy ,

Good Evening ,

This  Loverocket is the same guy as willywonker blueboys and the  infamous  Wangy

I had a PM from Willywonker on the La Torre thread and got all sought of abuse and basically he was going to come round and see me ,I could find him in the Irish bar with a Chelsea shirt on , I asked him why did the shirt make him harder and should  i be  more  scared , 

Like you I said I can meet him for a cup of tea and a chat, but heard no more the guy is a bully and no doubt he will resurvice under another name

We have had our different opinions ,but what he said was way over the top , and totally un-called for

It was just a matter of time before he was edited and banned. rightly so

regards

Here, here Jored

lol to all  you wind up merchants that can't afford your dream. Leave the ones that can. We don't need your s...t

Please would you take some time to explain what you mean by your "dream" Arab 1 and you might understand the frustrations that are facing many people at this moment in time. 

I will be brief because i do´t want tp drag the thread off topic so thank all of you for your comments and PM´s and I hope this has gone away till another new account is openned

I know that this is nothing to do with any current members where in the past I have had some disagreements

I have had some really odd PM´s from this individual including how there are 6 of them and how funny and easy it is to wind me up that they cannot stop laughing.. How I should stop posting on the forum, how I fell into their trap and finally how I see them most daysand and finally that he would see me over at Corvera

Am I worried, no, as I explained this ceratinly hasn´t discredited me or my services

Again thanks for all the support

Hi Ash

You are right SORRY

sorry if iam using this forum for the reason it was intended, (instead of arguing with people) but can anyone help with the following questions?

how does the community fee work,is it a blanket fee for the whole resort,or do we pay for our own individual area( we are on the south island ).

what does the fee pay for and who manages this fund. 

I think the community fee is paid for your own area and is managed eventually by your own elected body.  However in the interim to get things started it is usually the developer that takes the lead.  It might be a good idea to ask this question on the Roda forum (I think Hugh Man) might be the one to answer your questions as he seems very knowledgable - hope this helps - Russ

 Hi Gerz,

My apologies, but I took the liberty of posting your query onto a new thread.

1234 - I am sorry if my posts irk you so much. I don't think it is a matter of right or wrong - this will be decided by due legal process in the future. In the meantime, I am sure that the situation causes stress for all concerned. In my opinion the blame lies squarely at only one organisation....

Regards,

Ash

Message for Spanish clients wishing to join the Legal Action Group:

Tenga en cuenta que desde que mi español no es muy buena, he pedido a Jonathan a trato directo con clientes españoles.

Ash

Sorry to hear all the slagging off of Roy of Inspectahomes.

As a client who has recently completed the purchase of an apartment, I am seriously impressed with the the snagging work carried out by Roy (so far) and would reccommend his services to anyone who is thinking of completing. Roy also has great contacts for other services but, like everything else, you should compare quotes provided with at least one more service provider.

I am hopeful that the Corvera site will eventually live up to it's promise and will certainly get there quicker the faster others complete on their purchases. I think the site has potential way above any of the other developments I have seen in the area (and I have seen a lot).

To all who are already in, lets make the best of a great development.

Cheers

Hello John, I assume that you have also seen Roda.  I think people would be more confident of the developer had they delivered what was promised years ago on Roda.  I really think that it's a bit rich to put the pressure on people to complete so that the facilities will be provided. 

Surely the responsibility lies with the developer and you cannot blame people for taking action in such circumstances.  The legal system offers people a choice of not having to rely on the unreliable.

You have made your choice to complete and best of luck to you and its really good to hear that Roy is providing a good service.  However I sincerely hope that this is not an attempt to start apportioning blame for the non-provision of facilities on people who are taking legal action.  My understandng of the situation at the moment is that Calidona are content that they have provided all of the necessary facilities so I would not expect too much more in the near future apart from the clubhouse.  As far as I'm aware they have not produced any more press releases stating anything to the contrary.  The announcement concerning the hotel in 4 weeks time will be an interesting indication of their intent.

 Hi John, unbelievable I can't believe that you are being accused of attempting to pressurise people into doing something they do't want to in your very first post on this so called community forum.

no wonder its virtually down to the same dozen or so people rattling back and forth as everyone else stays clear of posting

enjoy your purchase and your time at corvera

Having read John's post I cannot interpret any form of pressure being put on others to complete - that is an incredible overstatement. He's merely stating that the more completers the more likely facilities will be provided - although I appreciate that there is no guarantee of this

All Johns comments can be based on pure business economics.

If 100 people want to ride horses in a week then you open an equestrian centre, if it's only 5 then you send them to a local stable at discounted rate.

If 100 people want to stay in a hotel, use its' spa facilities and spend money in it's bars and restaurants as well as play golf on the attached 'established' golf course then it is worth building. Not many would pay hotel prices at the moment or until the golf course matures at least. Once the airport is up and running there will be another 'one-night type of business client as well who needs a bed before catching his/her international/worldwide flight.

Patience is a virtue but only if you can afford the time.

Corvera is happening and will eventually be complete albeit too slowly and too late for some. I'd bet my life savings on it .... Oh! I already have.

Apologies - Chris you're right I should have thought a bit more and my response was an overstatement - these are stressful times for us all and I did over-react.  Sorry John!  Seems I'm apologising quite a lot lately!

However I would be interested to hear what extra facilities you guys think would be provided if more people completed?  Which facility is the most important in your opinion?  What was the main defining feature of this resort above the others?  What made it a class apart?  I know what did it for me and I can't see that happening for a while - if I'm wrong then we will all be happy!

Hi again Steve - what about the people on Roda who have gone through years of broken promises?

What about those whose retirement plans have already been put on hold?

Most of the apartments and villas on Corvera were sold in 2005 and 2006 - or at least the deposits taken so what does it take for these facilities to be provided?  The vast majority of customers are known and would be ready to complete if the resort was as advertised.  Have plans for the hotel even been submitted? 

How can a resort have decent occupancy when there is not enough there? 

I assumed that the money that was being paid for the apartments and villas was also contributing to the facilities - that was the deal, that was why it was more expensive than most.  You purchase a lifestyle not just a flat in the middle of nowwhere.  That's why it's in the literature, it was advertised like this. 

Look at the Murcia Golf Properties website - why is it they can't shift anything even at those prices?

How on earth are Calidona going to sell the next resort?  That's not a good business strategy.  Why haven't they even told their customers their plans on the resorts eg the announcement about De Vere mentioned Roda but not a word on Corvera - surely this is a worry?

Calidona didn't even build a hotel on Roda at the peak of the market - why not? 

Hopefully you'll appreciate that I'm not having a go Steve - but whilst I understand the economic conditions argument (I've got a degree in economics) in my opinion it just provides a convenient excuse.  I definitely think that the airport is the brightest thing on the horizon and hopefully we will see plans for a hotel brought forward.

Finally it is the case that you would never expect this resort to break-even at the beginning.  I think most owners who want to rent out their properties appreciate this - however why is it that these customers have all of the risk on their shoulders and the developer itself takes none after sitting on vast amounts of deposit money for years?  A hotel will take 2 years to build from start to finish.  I doubt they have even gone through the planning stage but I stand to be corrected.

This message was last edited by Russ W on 01/12/2009.

This message was last edited by Russ W on 01/12/2009.

roda has got 1.5 phases left to build one of which phase 5 is on hold indefinatly , and it still has very limited facalaties .

with the track record of the developer (ie never completed a resort ) why will corvera be any different?  i sincerly hope for you peoples sake this is not the case because paying a premium price for later stages and then been expected to complete when facalaties are not in place and to date show no sign of being is not a nice place to be . ( im there )  .

it begs the question if calidona are so confident in there resorts why are they spending so much money on legal fees chasing people who wish to pull out of contacts  , my guess would be because they have not got a hope in hell of reselling the units ( doesent show a lot of confidence by the develoer )  its all very easy to blame the economic conditions but the truth of the matter is if they had completed the resorts on time and to spec non of these issues would exist . 

I am not saying that the current climate is an excuse for Calidona not putting a hotel on Roda 18 months-2 years ago but it is NOW. Why they didn't I don't know, perhaps they already had wind of the DeVere buyout and didn't know where they stood?

All I can say is I bet they are quite happy that they did delay, what with the current economic situation; just look at the new wonder of the world that is Dubai (it's gonna end up the biggest half finished ruin in the world).

By the way I am in total agreement with you all that this is no excuse on the advertised literature and contracts that they have with all purchasers, just trying to guess probable cause for delays.