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Sunday, April 15, 2007
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I keep Koi here in the UK and whilst I won't be able to take them to Spain! I might like to have a Koi pond in Spain.
Has anyone experience of keeping Koi in Spain?
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15 Apr 2007 9:09 PM
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Amazing what you can turn up if you just Google! Found the following that may be able to help you:
http://www.koihacienda.com/en/
http://www.elkoi.com/
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15 Apr 2007 9:16 PM
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Very good Reberto!
I guess I should of had the sense to try googling, so I can buy Koi in Spain. Still interested in the keeping of Koi in Spain and differences of a Koi pond in the UK.
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15 Apr 2007 9:21 PM
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Sorry, I know nothing about Koi (except that Freddie mercury kept them!), I was just intrigued by your post so did a little search. Probably the links I found will be worth contacting for more information. One thing that occured to me, is that there are probably far more feral cats roaming around in Spain than UK. Are they fond of Koi?
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15 Apr 2007 10:54 PM
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A word of warning!
A neighbour of my Brother who lives in Aspe near Elche, CB, got a Spanish builder to construcdt a "special" Koi pool.
He exported his very expensive Koi from the UK, only to have them die one by one in Spain.
Not sure why, was it the pool? Was it the climate?
But this guy lost 1.000's of pounds worth of fish.
I have kept Koi in the past, for many a year.
I wouldn't recommend them in Spain.
The heat of the summer would kill them off, when ever have you seen a fish pond with even ordinary goldfish in Spain?
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15 Apr 2007 11:00 PM
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Combination of things I imagine but Koi dont like it really hot - probably ok indoors somewhere
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15 Apr 2007 11:23 PM
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There's an Arab restaurant opposite where I live, and they have a small pond in their patio, which USED to have Koi in it. Haven't checked recently if it still does. (They also used to have a Rotweiler, but haven't seen that for while come to think of it).
Koi are Japanese in origin, right? Surely it gets hot in Japan? They are also very popular in China, and I remember seeing plenty of them in gardens around Shanghai, which certainly gets hot.
Certainly I can imagine a change of climate could affect them though, just as a change in water temparature can kill them. But Stephen said he won't be bringing them from the UK.
Common goldfish can actually be remarkably hardy. My sister in law won two in a bag at a fair over 25 years ago. They are still alive and healthy today, in the same bowl they have lived in since then, even having survived a tomato ketchup attack by burglars some years ago.
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15 Apr 2007 11:28 PM
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We ad a goldfish won by my not so little one at the feria last year - we werent terribly kind to it and kept it cooped up in the small "tank" she was awarded (for 5€) with the fish she won - beyond all expectations it survived for about 7 months and finally on her birthday she was given a lovely goldfish bowl so that her fish could start to enjoy a better quality of life - day after the house move it pegged it and now we have a noce round bowl for pot pourri or a candle or something
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15 Apr 2007 11:29 PM
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Roberto!
You never cease to amaze me!
The Rotweiler must have eaten the Koi, then the Arab restaurant put it on the menu as surf and turd............
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15 Apr 2007 11:39 PM
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Fibby, what have I said now? You know I only ever report hard facts.
I won a fish once when I was a kid. Called him Jaws (of course!) It survived a few weeks before going to the great goldfish bowl in the sky. I made a little wooden coffin for him and buried him in the garden. I cried for a week 
Who'd have thought Stephens's thread could get so interesting?! I'm thinking of starting one about x-ray film to see how much interest it gets!
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15 Apr 2007 11:53 PM
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Roberto,
Your little goldfish will still be looking down on you mate, no worries.
We have a slug in our garden that has been there for years.
Every year, it brings all it's little babies out to see me, we feed it pellets, blue ones, and it loves them.
So sad when pets go to heavan eh?
But, if you have your goldfish and I have my slug, we will be fine sweetness!
(Only jesting for fun Roberto!)
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15 Apr 2007 11:58 PM
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God, I'm actually listening to Tell Me There's a Heaven, by Chris Rea, as I'm typing this. Now I'm getting all choked!
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16 Apr 2007 12:05 AM
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Saw Chris Rea in concert in Wembley, choked me too..........no Koi on the stage though, or goldfish or dogs,,
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21 Apr 2007 4:16 PM
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Koi Hacienda (see link in previous post) are advertising in this week's Sur in English - maybe they saw this thread and realised there was more interest out there than they thought?! Who'd have thought?......
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21 Apr 2007 4:26 PM
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06 Jun 2007 6:11 PM
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Hi Stephen,
Stll looking for info about keeping kois in Spain?
No problem at all. This fishes can have 35°C (watertemperature) as long you give them enough oxigen. I can help you with more infomation if you like.
Once bitten by the Koi fly you will never stop to love this animal.
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07 Jun 2007 11:24 PM
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Welcome to the forum, Koi Hacienda.
Did you see my previous post about my sister in law's goldfish? They are now 25 years old. A friend of mine who keeps tropical fish says this is impossible, but the evidence is there in a bowl in Liverpool for all to see! Is this a record, in your experience?
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09 Jun 2007 8:10 AM
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Hi Roberto,
We don't have any experience with goldfish. Koi can live for 80 years so goldfish can certainly live long also. They are from the same familie.
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10 Jun 2007 7:16 PM
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Thanks Koi, I better tell my sister in law to make adequate provision for them in her will!
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14 Jun 2007 3:16 PM
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Thanks Hacienda
I never have any trouble with 35 deg water in Ireland, just stopping it freezing over in winter :)
So a deep, shaded pond with a large air pump and no problems?
They probabily grow quicker aswell as feeding all year, can only feed here for 6 months on proper food (water above 10 deg) and wheatgerm food for 2 months (water above 4deg).
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