Just moved to Spain - How to register

We have just moved to spain permanently after living overseas. We own a house which we bought last year and have NIE numbers etc.

I am getting so much conflicting information on residencia/ social security etc that we are going round in circles.

We have been to the foreign residents office and showed them passports, deeds, NIE etc and have now been issued a Volante de Empadronamiento colectivo certificate. We were not asked for proof of earnings, insurance etc which I believed we would be, due to the new rules.

What else is required of us? Do we need residencia or is that something of the past? How do we get social security numbers etc?

We would like to sign my Daughter up for nursery next term and sign onto the healthcare system. I will be starting a new job in Gibratar in a few weeks but as yet have no proof earnings/contributions to SS etc, although when I start I will be electing to send the contributions to spain.

Help much appreciated. I have searched this and many other forums but found conflicting outdated info.

I will be starting a new job in Gibratar in a few weeks but as yet have no proof earnings/contributions to SS etc, although when I start I will be electing to send the contributions to spain.

What do you mean by "electing to send the contributions to Spain"?  If you are talking about social security contributions, then that can't be done.  What you can get is the S1 form from Gibraltar that entitles you and your dependents to healthcare in Spain on the same basis as Spanish nationals.

The registration process is explained in several  threads.  One is :-    “Registering on the EU Citizens Register (replaced the Residencia) The form in English”

This is an extract from that thread:-

This is from the thread   “Latest info re EU Citizen Registration (formerly Residencia)”

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This is the latest info regarding the requirements for EU Citizen Registration. 

At present I have no knowledge how the system is or will work in practice,

DOCUMENTACIÓN ACREDITATIVA PARA CERTIFICADO DE REGISTRO

 1. Copia de pasaporte o documento nacional de identidad, válido y en vigor, del solicitante o copia de los mismos caducados y de la solicitud de renovación. 2. Tasa pagada (10.30 euros)

3. Los documentos que a continuación se detallan según los casos:

TRABAJADOR CUENTA AJENA.- Uno de los siguientes documentos: - Declaración de contratación del empleador

 Incluyendo nombre de la empresa, C.I.F. de la empresa, Código Cuenta Cotización en la SS de la empresa.

- Certificado de empleo

 - Contrato de trabajo registrado en el S.P. Empleo - Alta en la SS

 O bien consentimiento para la comprobación de datos en los ficheros de la Tesorería General de la Seguridad Social.

TRABAJADOR CUENTA PROPIA.- Uno de los siguientes documentos:

 - Inscripción en el censo de actividades económicas.

- Inscripción del establecimiento mercantil en el Registro Mercantil. - Alta en la SS

 O bien consentimiento para la comprobación de datos en los ficheros de la Tesorería General de la Seguridad Social.

NO TRABAJA.- Todos los documentos siguientes:

 - Seguro de enfermedad con cobertura durante su período de residencia equivalente a la proporcionada por el Sistema Nacional de Salud (pensionistas será suficiente con documento que acredite que tienen derecho a asistencia con cargo al Estado que le paga la pensión).

- Prueba de recursos suficientes (mínimo 5.007,81 euros)

 ESTUDIANTES.

­Posibilidad 1:·         Matrícula

·         Seguro de enfermedad o tarjeta sanitaria europea válida durante todo el período de residencia.

·         Declaración de que posee recursos suficientes.

Posibilidad 2:      Acreditación de ser participante en UE de intercambio educativo

ENGLISH TRANSLATION  (by Bing)

SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION

1. Copy of passport or national identity card, valid and in force, of the applicant or copy of the same expired and the application for renewal. 2 Rate paid (10.30 euros) xx

3. The documents listed below as appropriate:

WORKER  employed

-one of the following documents:-20th employer recruitment statement

 Including company name, CIF of the company code account trading on the SS of the company.

-Certificate of employment

-Contract work registered in the employment S.P. - high in the SS

Either consent to the verification of data in the files of the General Treasury of the Social Security.

WORKER, self employed .- 

   one of the following documents:

-Registration on the Census of economic activities.

-Registration of the mercantile establishment in the mercantile registry. -High in the SS

Either consent to the verification of data in the files of the General Treasury of the Social Security.

 NOT working.              -all of the following documents:

 -Health coverage during their period of residence equivalent to that provided by the national system of health insurance

(pensioners will be accepted with documentation that certifies they are entitled to medical assistance, paid by the State which pays the pension).

-Proof of sufficient resources (minimum 5.007,81 EUR)

ESTUDIANTES.

Method 1:

 • Registration

• Insurance of sickness or European health insurance card valid throughout the period of residence.

Declaration that he has sufficient financial resources.

Method 2:

Accreditation to be member in EU educational exchange

Thanks Sanchez. I read previously that when paying social security contributions in Gib, but living in Spain, you were supposed to fill out some form that elected to pay the contributions you had made in Gib to Spain. Presumably this was referring to the S1 form that you mention, but the other persons understanding was incorrect.

Thanks for the cut and paste Johnzx, but doesn't really help with my questions.

Do I need residencia? We have registered on the foreign residents register and other sites seem to say that the residencia has been abolished.

We will not be working in Spain and will not have employment contracts listing CIF etc as the company I will be working for are based in Gibraltar. Plus I have not started work yet so will not have the health insurance in place until I commence in a few weeks.

We have already been here nearly 3 months including holiday so will they expect us to leave soon?

Thanks, so which one is required to apply for nursery places register for social security contributions etc?

My local government Manilva tells me this is all done with the Padron cert, if so what is the EU citizens register for or is it just a formal hoop to jump through?

Thanks, so which one is required to apply for nursery places register for social security contributions etc?

My local government Manilva tells me this is all done with the Padron cert, if so what is the EU citizens register for or is it just a formal hoop to jump through?