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                                                Hi folks. Linda Needham let you know that I saw San Jose's lawyers on Friday. The licenses that they have in place at the moment are for R15 & R4 and these licenses have allowed them to build the show homes and will allow them to start the urbanisation of R15 & R4. This means that they can level the land, dig the foundations and concrete the foundations in R15 &R4. They CANNOT then do ANYTHING else until they get a further license which they are EXPECTING to get in  September/October which will allow them to commence the actual costruction of the properties i.e. build the walls, roof etc etc. I was told by their lawyer that our property was unlikely to be completed in 2007 (due end October 2007) and not to expect that it will be ready until March/April 2008 at the very earliest. As regards to the completion of the golf course they were less than forthcoming on this but I doubt that anyone should think about the prospect of being able to play the course before the end of 2009 or sometime in 2010. This is the very last post that I shall make on this forum but if anyone wishes to send me a private message then feel free to do so. Good luck to everyone and Goodbye. Roysrellies    
                                             
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                                
                                                     
                                                    
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                                                Roy 
Thank you ever so much for your post, it's not good news but we all need to know.....our appreciation that you managed to get a message from them at all !!!.......which leads to another concern. 
Only recently on this Forum, the following message was posted -  
"PLEASE NOTE IN VIEW OF NEGATIVITY ON MESSAGE BOARD I ASKED QUESTIONS OF 
SANJOSEGRUPO - HAVE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING ANSWER -  
With regards to the work on the site of Jumilla, I inform you that these 
have stopped only because we had received licenses to build the base of 
the property. The licenses are given by stages and we have to receive 
next week the following stage licenses, in order to actually lift the 
structure and proceed with the foundation of the other plots, where this 
had not been done yet.  
 
We understand the impact of not having workers on site, from one day to 
the next, but we do not want to cause any problems that may influence in 
a negative way, the issuing of the following building licenses.  
 
Therefore, there is nothing for anyone to worry about and let you know 
that the whole site is on its way to became one of the regions most 
important resorts. " 
This message from SJG was also posted on another forum on 09/05/07 - 
I have received a letter from San Jose detailing the licences for 572 properties were granted at the town hall meeting and that the workmen are now back on site and continuing.  
  
I have a copy of the licence which I will add to the site as soon as BT sort out my e-mail!  
  
San jose are currently having all the paperwork trranslated into english for us so that they can then provide these with an official statement for owners to put your mind at ease! This will have the background and include the next steps e.t.c. They hope to provide a statement to us early next week  
  
They fully understand your concerns but want to assure you that they will always be responsible and follow the proper procedures when working on a site If they have to stop due to delays in paperwork, then they will do this as Spanish custom dictates  
 
If this is, as we are led to believe, the 'Voice of SJG', how can such conflicting messages be sent out with so much emphasis made on 'next week' . We. like many others try and avoid to be negative but I firmly believe now that the negativity stems from a lack of clear and concise communication from SJG and it's communication channels. The urbanisation will be built.....all we are asking is when !! 
Darren 
 
                                             
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                                                It really is becoming difficult knowing what to believe when we read conflicting statements  from SJ as we have just experienced. Perhaps auntielinda or somebody could go back to SJ and show them these conflicting statements and ask them for an explaination! This message was last edited by taxiparrots on 5/13/2007.
                                             
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                                
                                                     
                                                    
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                                                Hi All 
I don't deal with SJ 
I go via my agent and get them to email the information to me 
I then pass this on to all of you  
I have always given the forum the same information I have received and offered you all any copy providing you send me your email address via a PM as I don't know any other way to send the info. 
I will continue to let you all have the same info I receive if you want it? 
GAL 
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                                                Hi Auntielinda, 
The information you received was from your agent who in turn received it from SJ, so SJ are still sending out conflicting messages which causes negativity on forums. SJ should be made aware of this. 
                                             
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                                
                                                     
                                                    
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                                                I fully agree 
so why doesn't everybody get on to them  
fter all we are all in the same boat and 400+ EMAILS  
should hopefully get the message across dont you think ? 
However not all buyers contribute so those who do would be in the minority !!! 
                                             
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                                                Anna (tara), 
This is not 'sniping comments', this is about correct information being passed over to homeowners, one party saying one thing and one saying the other....ie conflicting information. All I want to know is what is the correct information, and I can only assume yours is since you have a copy of the current license to build. 
Homeowners alike only want to know what is fact ! 
Darren 
  
                                             
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                                                actually darren - they were both saying more or less the same. 
instead of causing mass panic why don't you just log on next week an see what they want to say. I guarantee you it with be directly from san jose This message was last edited by tara2811 on 5/13/2007.
                                             
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                                
                                                     
                                                    
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                                                It really is an appalling  situation. 
 SJ clearly told us that work had stopped because they required a further licence to build upright . They told us this was the licence presently being approved by the Jumilla town hall at the meeting on 30th April yet what we get through concerns only 572 and does not appear to be  a licence to build upright.  Now we have the report from royreillies informing us that SJ are saying the build upright will not commence before Sept/Oct at the earliest.What on earth is going on.It  really is p...... me off. 
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                                                Hi 
I have read elsewhere that foundations for at least part of R10 have been started, which hopefully answers the question.  I am trying to find out whether that is the whole of R10, as it appears to be divided into 4 parts, and our plot is in the 4th part!  Our agents are on leave (it is a small family business) so I can't chase them until they return!  If I get anything more definite, I will post it here. 
Sue 
  
                                             
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                                                R10 is divided into four parts.  Our plot is R10 No. 3 and I know that this was classed as phase 1.  Looking at the map, this is the bottom left hand quarter.  The bottom right hand quarter was classed as phase 4.  At the time we purchased in October 2005 the top two quarters of R10 had not got a phase number. I know that the footings have been dug for R10 phase 1 as you can see these in the aerial photo submitted in April.  However, I would really like to know if any concrete has been laid yet.  If anyone is going out to SADM in the next week or so perhaps they could have a look for me.   
Jane Stockdale R10 No. 3  
                                             
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                                
                                                     
                                                    
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                                                I'll look for you Jane and get as many photos of R10 &R15 as I am able 
I know R4 is well under way as you say I can see my plot I'll be taking photos there too 
GAL 
                                             
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                                                Hi GAL and Dave 
I am sure that you will have loads of questions to ask, and not just on your own behalf.  If you are asking about R10, John and I are concerned that they are only working on phase 1 at the moment, as we are on phase 4, so it would be helpful to know if that is the case and if so when they anticipate starting phase 4. 
Have a great time out there - the sun is actually shining in our bit of London at the moment, but I am still very jealous!   
September seems a long way away at the moment, though no doubt the time will go pretty quickly. 
Sue 
                                             
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See my blog about our life in Spain: www.spainuncovered.com 
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                                
                                                     
                                                    
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