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09 Oct 2006 12:00 AM by EOS Team Star rating in In Spain of course!. 4015 posts Send private message

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Connecting up to utilities in Spain isn't always easy, especially when it comes to dealing with their customer services departments!

Use this forum to discuss these issues.  Post questions or comments on this thread or start a new one.


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21 Oct 2006 5:51 PM by ldkelly Star rating. 8 posts Send private message

Does anybody have an idea of setup costs for electricity and water in Almeria region?




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26 Nov 2006 9:42 PM by kevinm Star rating in Somewhere so nice, i.... 26 posts Send private message

Do you mean changeover to yourself from the current owner, or new installation of the services? If the former, it has cost us 600€ to change the water supply, electricity, telephone and communal sewage charge for a finca into our names. The property is in Canjáyar, Almería.

Hope this helps.

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26 Nov 2006 10:15 PM by EOS Team Star rating in In Spain of course!. 4015 posts Send private message

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I always have a figure in my head of 200 Euros for each...but I could be wrong!

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03 Apr 2007 11:43 PM by babe Star rating. 177 posts Send private message

our lawyer in CDS has agreed to set up electricity water and phone  he dont take no sh....... from them cowboys  if we have to use builder supply he will set it up and pay them for us




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04 Apr 2007 12:44 AM by Roberto Star rating in Torremolinos. 4541 posts Send private message

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I'm constantly amazed at all the posts about builders electric and water. We were on it for several months after moving in, because the FLO had not yet been issued (therefore not possible to contract individual meters). The builder/developer paid for it, never charged any of us a cent for it. After all, we had done them a huge favour by agreeing to complete before getting the FLO. (There was never really any doubt that it would be issued, since the property was not built on new land - just re-developed urban). They had our money in the bank sooner than they were legally entitled to, so it seemed to us the least they could do to provide us with utilities. As soon as the LFO was issued, we had our own contracts set up very quickly.

Having said that, we were only a very small number of properties - I can see why on a large urbanization the builder may feel differently, but then why make people complete without the LFO? Why complete without the LFO, if you are a buyer?


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04 Apr 2007 10:16 AM by alanwspencer Star rating in Hertfordshire/Duques.... 340 posts Send private message

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Roberto said,

'I'm constantly amazed at all the posts about builders electric and water. We were on it for several months after moving in, because the FLO had not yet been issued (therefore not possible to contract individual meters). The builder/developer paid for it, never charged any of us a cent for it. '

After having a mild panic reading some posts here I spoke to my laywer last week and asked her what would happen if we are still on builders supply after we move in. She said we would be very lucky indeed as there would be no charge! How can there be such a diverse approach to utilities supply?

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04 Apr 2007 10:45 AM by Tish Star rating in Surrey. 833 posts Send private message

And what happens if no LFO is grante for years and the developer/builder gets fed up with paying for the utilities???



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04 Apr 2007 11:59 AM by FibbyUK Star rating in UK, Surrey & Playa F.... 2349 posts Send private message

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Tish, I don't know the answer to that one, but surely the LFO is granted in a timely manner?

I don't think that situation would arise, the builder would push for the LFO in that case!

For interest, our installation costs were:

€75 - Electricity (Iberdrola)

€150 - Water (Aquagest)

BUT be careful!

Our builder charged us for these costs, then our first utility bills showed the charge again!

We had to get a refund from the builder which took ages and we had to produce all sorts of paperwork, including the original Escritura!

Also, our builder DID NOT charge us anything for when we were on builders supply.

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04 Apr 2007 1:19 PM by Tish Star rating in Surrey. 833 posts Send private message

Hi Fibby,

My "question" was more of a statement really .

It has been known for developers supply to be cut off with no warning. In and around Marbella there  are many problem developments with no LFO's  because of "dodgy" building permits and the developments are "under investigation" Until the new powers are elected to the Town hall in May,  there will no LFO's. It could take a long long time before many developments are registered as legal.

I realise other areas of Spain do not have this massive corruption problem. In Marbella, it is generally advised not to complete without the LFO.




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04 Apr 2007 7:28 PM by Roberto Star rating in Torremolinos. 4541 posts Send private message

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Fibby said: "...surely the LFO is granted in a timely manner? I don't think that situation would arise, the builder would push for the LFO in that case!"

My God, Fibby, you really should spend a little more time on this forum!!!!!   Have you not read all the posts about LFOs? Lucky for you, like us, you got free utilities while waiting for the LFO, but clearly many don't.

Tish said: " I realise other areas of Spain do not have this massive corruption problem. In Marbella, it is generally advised not to complete without the LFO."

In Eye On Spain you will find many previous discussions re: FLO, and the general consensus of opinion and advice is also to  never complete without it. In fact, I think that's the title of a whole thread dedicated to the subject! This may sound a little hipocritical, since I completed on a new build without it, but as I said before, I think it's a bit different when the property has been built on land that has previously had residential property built on it - for example in a city centre. That way, there is little chance that the land has been illegally built on.


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04 Apr 2007 8:55 PM by FibbyUK Star rating in UK, Surrey & Playa F.... 2349 posts Send private message

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Roberto!

That was a bit of a kick in the teeth!

"Spend a little more time on this forum"?

I spend loads of time on this forum, not in the last week I grant you, I was slightly indisposed, in hospital have a hip replacement!

So my apologies that I have not read "all of the posts about LFO's" 

If I were to read ALL of the posts on this forum before making a post, I would be posting a response 3 months after the post went on!

Your tongue in cheek pic, I hope, was really that?!

Don't set me off on one Roberto, else i will get JeanSis onto you!!

Kindest regards as always you little monkey you...................


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04 Apr 2007 11:42 PM by Roberto Star rating in Torremolinos. 4541 posts Send private message

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"If I were to read ALL of the posts on this forum before making a post, I would be posting a response 3 months after the post went on!"

OK, so what's Janice's secret? She can read ALL the posts AND reply within 3 MINUTES! And with flashing lights and bells on!!!!

Of course it was meant tongue in cheek, no offence meant. Good to have you back, hope you are recuperating well.


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04 Apr 2007 11:47 PM by JeansSis Star rating. 2376 posts Send private message

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05 Apr 2007 11:36 PM by Roberto Star rating in Torremolinos. 4541 posts Send private message

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Janice, I know about your experience and did not for one minute intend to upset you or anyone else on this sensitive subject. My question was of course rhetoric, and a bit daft really, especially as, like I said, I also completed on a property without the LFO (although I still maintain our circumstances were slightly different due to the nature of the property we were buying). I was merely trying to point out the potential pitfalls to others who may be about to follow in our footsteps, which I suppose is what we're all doing here. If we can help others avoid some of the mistakes we made along the way, then we're doing some good as well as getting things off our chests (which let's face it, makes US feel better!)

I'm waffling now, so I may as well go right off topic, and say, Alan, I just noticed your new avatar, and as a fellow YID am as gutted as you no doubt are about that dreadful referee mistake tonight in Seville, but don't worry, we'll sort it out next week at the Lane

(Janice, you now have exactly 3 minutes to ask what the Hell I'm talking about!)



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08 Apr 2007 8:26 PM by FibbyUK Star rating in UK, Surrey & Playa F.... 2349 posts Send private message

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Oooooo Roberto!

I didn't take offence luvvy duck, we all know each other on here by now, all a load of mucker abouters sometimes!

Your response to Janice (Jeansis) did make me laugh though! (And yes thanks, recuperating just fine, will be doing the hippy hippy shake within days now!)

You know what buttons to press to get her going don't you!

Poor Janice, she does take it in the neck from some members sometimes.................if she wasn't on EOS, we would all be bored!!!

You go girl................................

Rgds,


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14 Apr 2007 11:17 AM by rosi n Star rating in Cornwall / axarquia. 119 posts Send private message

We know of small group of houses that have had all supplies from the builder for the last 4 years the project is finished people are asking all the time for the LFO but all they get  is its coming soon? this reply is the same now for for over a year he is now asking all the owners for money for electric even though the supply is restricted to each property ,can he do this before he hands out a LFO if he ever gets it from the local Town Hall ,the build was illegal and he tells people all is being sorted out soon? but nobody seems to have all the complete papers if any to say they own anything I think some people have even paid up front for connections to services it would be interesting to know how long this can go on for ,in the past it was pretty normal for the builder to supply these services with no charge but now when they can get away with it they slip these charges in as extras. Regards to all Rosi n.



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16 Apr 2007 12:02 AM by FibbyUK Star rating in UK, Surrey & Playa F.... 2349 posts Send private message

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Hi Rosi n

You say that the build was illegal?

why on earth where you ever involved with a build that you knew was illegal?

Sorry, I am not understanding here............

 


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