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12 Aug 2011 11:11 AM by Steeley1981 Star rating. 146 forum posts Send private message

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If the range is closed no one can use it..........except for those people who have stolen balls.

With a bit of luck they'll be caught red handed when they take one of their "free" trips to the range (assuming the thieves do not read this forum).

Ola Golf should monitor the range and prosecute where appropriate.



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12 Aug 2011 11:13 AM by rich&bops Star rating in Fleet . 266 forum posts Send private message

can you still use your own balls on the chipping area?

the amount that Ola golf charge for the golf, this shouldnt really be happening.  All balls should be collected before dark.

 

 

 



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12 Aug 2011 11:28 AM by Steeley1981 Star rating. 146 forum posts Send private message

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Can't see why the other practice facilities would be closed as you are supposed to use your own balls on these anyway.

 



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12 Aug 2011 11:31 AM by rich&bops Star rating in Fleet . 266 forum posts Send private message

on the putting green yes. i use my own

chipping area, i use the range balls.  then finish off on the range. 

 

If i dont hit on the range, i'll leave them on the short game area for someone else to use, €1 isnt going to kill me



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12 Aug 2011 12:49 PM by Steeley1981 Star rating. 146 forum posts Send private message

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I have sent email to Ola Golf and ML about this.

Infuriating and something needs to be done about it.



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12 Aug 2011 1:52 PM by Waddle Star rating in Chesterfield & Los N.... 210 forum posts Send private message

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Disgraceful

Have these people hopped on a plane straight from looting the streets of Britain

Can we not get notices put up in Al Kasar (supermarket, ML office, Clover etc) to say this will not be tolerated and security will apprehend those responsible? (Might be an empty threat but worth a try)



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12 Aug 2011 2:25 PM by Sonatigh Star rating in Condado de Alhama Re.... 621 forum posts Send private message

 Rich& Bops

Security yes owners pay via Community fees for security BUT our Security does not cover the Golf this is the responsibility of Ola Golf / IRM likewise as stated in other posts Our security does not cover the Al Kasar Pub and Supermarket these are covered by another company paid for by the owners of that facility.

I dont think Ola Golf have any security but am sure they will be looking at it with the spate of vandalism and tresspass thats going on and of course steeling range balls?

Prior the the influx of the August rush we never had little trouble.

I read further down on this subject someone said they saw children going on to the range with plastic bags? why did this person not call security who would call the Police the range would not have been closed the culprits would have been caught and problem solved.

I play Golf on this course 2 or 3 times a week and whenever i see anything i phone the Golf shop and they send the marshall out, last week it was people chipping on to the putting area? a few weeks ago 3 people in one buggy all playing Golf only 2 bags? if all golfers do this we can beetween us help protect the course. 

Nobody should confront any one but it is easy to inform the Golf shop or security and let them deal accordingly.



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12 Aug 2011 2:41 PM by Chaddyowl Star rating in Manchester. 1264 forum posts Send private message

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Thats why we are where we are because people wont act swiftly!!!

Confront the little sh!ts and find out where they are from and show the parents what they are doing wrong!!

I would frog march the little toerags down the security and gladly throw em all outta the gates myself but the liberal hand wringers put paid to that years ago in our country but have they also got a grip and stranglehold on Spain as well???

We are all owners on Condado so we are ALL responsible to act not shy away or turn a blind eye or blame somebody else who cant be everywhere at once!!

I am out at the end of August and will gladly patrol our course to stop these toerags either with security/marshalls or not!


 



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12 Aug 2011 3:06 PM by Sonatigh Star rating in Condado de Alhama Re.... 621 forum posts Send private message

" Thats why we are where we are because people wont act swiftly!!!

 

We are all owners on Condado so we are ALL responsible to act not shy away or turn a blind eye or blame somebody else who cant be everywhere at once!!!"

Exactly what a recent message from the administrator stated we all own and must all be vigilant and protect our and our neighbours property and gardens, all damage costs money to repair and the budget WILL increase next year to cover this unlawful damage, WE are ALL paying for damage caused by a minority.

Lets all stop this and report all incidents, too many people are turning a blind eye, but they wont turn a blind eye when their fees go up?

No need to confront anyone just call Security they are trained to deal with all incidents 968 328 026 put this number in your mobile now and use it if you need it.



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12 Aug 2011 9:17 PM by Billbo Star rating in Hartlepool & Jardine.... 654 forum posts Send private message

Mick, Chaddy,

Although at either end of the scale, both approaches are perfectly apropriate. As Mick says, we all end up paying for the damage.

I have had reason to 'pull up' youths in our Jardine on more than one occassion for playing football and, believe it or not, swinging a golf club merrily away at golf balls. Part of this family (that shall remain nameless for now) was just a young kid of about 8 or 9 and was swinging quite wildly missing the ball most of the time. God knows where it would of went if the contact was clean. All this time the parents were happy to sit on their patio observing this going on .

Now I all for live & let live, but the self same group then had the neck to ask us to move our car out of 'their space' this summer when there were plenty of free spaces either side (is the reserved bay ruling still in place - lots of bays don't seem to have visible numbers any more ?).  Last year they were even more 'brass necked' - they asked us and another to move cars then promptly beckoned in one of their relatives to park sideways on across five or so bays, including disabled, with a 30 foot mobile home !  The next move was to run out a long extension lead from the apartment to the van across the front of half a dozen gardens. Not sure when Condado became a camping/caravan site .

Needles to say, if it looks like happening again when we are there I am afraid I will have to hit them with the 'health & safety card' .

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12 Aug 2011 10:27 PM by jonew Star rating in Leeds & Los Naranjos.... 95 forum posts Send private message

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I think a little bit of perspective is needed here.

When we are over my kids aged 8 & 9 will go into the rough wasteland area in front of the penthouses armed with a bucket or maybe a bag and collect balls from this area, where the tractor cannot go & the green keepers obviosly don't go. They will pick up as many balls as they can find, some of them will be in the shrubs and bushes and they will also get these out too (You'd be suprised how many they get, there are some seriously bad golfers use that range) they then return all the balls to the grassed area where they can be picked up by the tractor, believe it or not they actually enjoy doing this (and have never charged for their services) they even turn it into sibling rivalry as to who can collect the most. They do not do this when people are using the range for obvious reasons.

It seems now I am going to have to stop them doing this as there are a number of people who seem to get all their exercise jumping to conclusions rather than visiting a gym and think they may be nicking these balls and therefore are classed as "scum of the earth" (and me as a bad parent), in fact I may not fiind them at all as one member may have already thrown them over the entrance gate.

I also saw one family who spent around an hour around dusk collecting up every ball  they could find in bags and then they arranged them into some sort of display, Image and walked off, they never took one ball with them, the following day the tractor came picked them all up and put them back in the machine, this again would have saved money as less diesel would have been used to collect the balls as they were all in one place.

We are in block 3 and I have sat there many a night watching numerous adults on the range with buckets and bags collecting balls and then merrily skipping away to their cars with them, obviously ready to return and hit them another time, can you imagine how many golf balls are sat in peoples apartments rather than in the machine on the range?  I've also seen kids do this but generally they seem to go straight to the range and hit them back on (some have a problem with this, I don't as I would rather they be hitting golf balls than each other). If the machine wasn't turned off long before dusk then I'm sure even less would do this, I have stood there and watched many people turn up around 8pm to find the machine off, surely more opportunities missed here.

Anyway to finish let's not put this solely at the responsilbility of a small number of kids and actually accept that it may be a bigger problem and more likely be the adults who are hoarding the balls in their apartments, what would the kids do with the balls anyway? it's not like they are selling them on. 

Lets encourage everyone who has balls in their apartments to return them to the range and get olagolf to keep the machine on till night falls and then we can have the facility we need rather than people playing the blame game and seeing the easy target (kids) as the problem. Adults are no better

 

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12 Aug 2011 10:39 PM by chaddyowl Star rating in Manchester. 1264 forum posts Send private message

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Is this too simple???

If the golf balls aint yours then DONT TOUCH EM!!!!

Let olagolf find there own freakin balls if anyone takes them away to keep its called theft simple as!




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13 Aug 2011 1:10 AM by georgeh Star rating in condado de alhama sp.... 1462 forum posts Send private message

 Have Olagolf moaned about this. No . Why not. Because they only have 1 marshall a day who does a 12 hour shift. So his job is to check green fees, sort out buggies and trolleys, collect the golf balls and collect the pitching flags.

Olagolf are saving a fortune on wages as they should have 2/3 marshalls and they cant expect 1 marshall in every place so dont feel too sorry for them. Easy answer to ths. Get the owners to marshall in exchange for free golf as on other courses in spain. Generally done in 4 hour shifts 3 times a week.

More concern for me as a member  rather than nicked range balls is kids playing on the course and in the bunkers,

Some kids are so stupid they put all their names in the bunkers on the 13th greenside bunker( strangely enough in front on jardines 13 where there seems to have been a few problems this week). Actually saw 2 kids picking up sand out of a bunker  there! Parents if your kids want to make sand castles take them to the beach. It doesnt take inspector clusseu to work out where the sand came from!

Seems to me parents are letting kids wander off and dont really ask what they are up to.

However from what i have seen in london this week parental duty seems to have vanished

Only way to stop it is to fine the adults, Me thinks the slipper may then come out once ' dont give a shite daddy'  cant afford his saturday pint.

Rant over.

 

 



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