Why do we get so many new members wanting to move to Spain?

i think the reason a lot of younger people want to come to spain is that they can see a better life for their families it was why i thought about it, better education,less crime healthier diet and better weather the only thing that stopped me was the economical climate at least here in britain if there is no work the kids still get fed and if we are in need of hospital treatment it is still free

 Dear All,

it was not that long ago that we were promised a new age of reduced work and increased leisure, surely you have not forgotten?

the robots were taking over!!!!

instead we have got the benefit culture, while others slave all hours and make extra payments to top up their pensions, which they cannot have until years later, because we cannot afford it now while we pay the benefits and expenses to millionaire MP thieves.

but you will never stop the dreamers here dreaming of better weather, more opportunities and a more relaxed lifestyle.

unfortunately it seems that Spain no longer promises that for many.

as More says...................

"I personally know three couples who are returning soon & they are not young either just not quite of retirement age so need to work."

this of course assumes that no one needs to work here to avoid starvation, even if they have not been contributing for years.

Something seems to have gone wrong, if you have not earned a benefit, that is simple charity, isn't it????

Who can afford charity if they are bankrupt?????

Oh dear, I am confused again.

Regards

Norman

 Dear Georgia,

thank you for that, great information and a real concern.

we don't seem to suffer in the same way here but I do note that there is a bitterness and quite a lot of vandal damage to cars and property reported by neighbourhood watch.

you clearly had good reason to decamp, the puzzle is why are you and Goodstich reporting such different viewpoints????

Regards

Norman

Great informative post, Georgia  & I'm sorry we've not made it to Algorfa this trip &, of course, you moved so we never catch a glimpse of you now on Saturday lunchtimes when we visit Mr & Mrs Acapulco, who are watching the England game with us on Wednesday after eating with us.

As my OH says 'WHY do you concern yourself so much about others, More? You advise as best you're able to, let them make their own mistakes as WE had to!' Of course my better other half is always right!

Yes, Norman, you can call me More.

 Dear More,

thank you and please keep up the good work, you are a star.

unfortunately OH has something of a point, human nature being what it is, bitter experience is often the best teacher no matter how the elderly press the matter.

Regards

Norman

I think a lot of people choose Spain (well, the Costas anyway) because of the following:

-the sun

-no need to learn any Spanish

-no need to have anything to do with the Spanish people or Spanish culture/society/way of life

-you can get your full English Breakfasts, pie and chips and pints of Carling everywhere

-you can escape your problems in the UK and everything will be ok in Spain apparently

You can basically have everything you had in the UK but with better weather. 

That's it I think.

Sad people if that's there reasons sanchez1, maybe an indication of why so many only find time to gripe and moan about Spain.

I think that "young people" are all being tarred with the same brush on this thread.  I am a "young" ish (early 30s) person who moved to Spain and I did my homework and I also made sure I had a job BEFORE I moved here.  Yes, I will admit that if I had my time again I would have waited a few years to buy a property as I probably would have gotten more for my money now (although the FX rate has helped keep this loss down!) but I look at it in the way that if I am not planning on selling the property yet I haven't made a loss.

I do have a profession and I do speak a bit of Spanish but I knew that I would not be able to progress my career unless I moved near Gibraltar.  I refused to move to Spain without a job already lined up in Gibraltar as just because I am "young" it doesn't mean that I don't have my head screwed on. 

Yes a lot of people do get it wrong or they have really bad luck but the whole idea of EOS is to help each other isn't it?  I know it helped me when I was doing my research.  People may ask stupid questions or have unrealistic expectations but it is our job to give people advice just as we were given it when we first joined up. 

Not all of Spain is doom and gloom.  I (personally) think moving to Spain was the best thing I've done but I know that isn't the same for everyone.

Daniela

There are of course many people who choose the costas for other reasons.  I love seeing the sea and would have liked living on the coast off-season, however as we were retiring to Spain and living here permanently, we decided to live inland.  We can visit the costas for holidays in the spring and autumn!

We have found that most people who choose to live away from the costas do so because they want to enjoy the Spanish way of life, and like us they try to learn Spanish (some more successfully than others!) so they can make Spanish friends, enjoy the culture etc.  We get the sun here too, and if you want an English breakfast you have to cook your own at home!

Sue

 Thank you both,

two good posts worthy of the "Good News" thread.

Regards

Norman