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13 May 2008 9:35 PM by jackieinhove Star rating. 120 forum posts Send private message

Hi Chris and everyone

I feel sick too, we need to act urgently and take this seriously guys, I think Mazinger wants us to add to their list especiallyif you have a good lawyer. They also want us to email each in private so that they dont get wind of what is going on!

I think I will phone that solicitor tomorrow, the one who spamming. I have her detailsl if anyone wants it. Just PM me

Jackie





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13 May 2008 10:32 PM by lyla77 Star rating. 17 forum posts Send private message

I was born in Spain, I am merried to an Irish, and now that we are retired, we spend our time half in Spain (Costa Blanca) and half in Ireland.

You do not have to believe me or phone my solicitor if you do not want to. I was just trying to help. As you say, you are adults, so you can take your way.

I do not understand why you are saying these things to me. I just can imagine a reason: that some of the people involved here, in this forum, is linked with TH.

Good luck to everybody still relaying on TH 




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14 May 2008 12:11 AM by GuntherP Star rating. 14 forum posts Send private message

murciabhoy wrote:REALLY i THINK IT HAS ALL GONE BAD FOR US NOW maybe this is the time to get our money back.

 

Wow Gerry! time has passed and nowadays I hardly recognize your words!!!!!!!!!! Hear me: some of us were ALWAYS telling the truth and telling all of you our real feelings about this development and you didn´t move at time. Well, it´s no late and there do exist time to move and save something. PLEASE: forget about castles in the sky or the sand down at Campos del Rio (that is the only thing you all sadly will see there).




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14 May 2008 11:09 AM by cpboyd Star rating in BELFAST N/IRELAND. 89 forum posts Send private message

well i think the bubble has maybe finally burst can anybody get any further info directly from trampolin on whats happening at the moment? what is there stance on this

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14 May 2008 11:16 AM by cpboyd Star rating in BELFAST N/IRELAND. 89 forum posts Send private message

http://www.homesworldwide.co.uk/europe/spain/news/articles/expats_anxious_at_trampolin_hills,_spain?news_id=0068665

check this out nothing we dont already know but good to see it from a different source



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14 May 2008 11:23 AM by ROUGHDIAMOND Star rating in Bristol. 88 forum posts Send private message

 

Hi everybody,

 

I am waiting to hear back from my Spanish Solicitor at the moment when she does I will let you all know. but for your information there are some tough times in Spain at the moment and the fact that GROUPOTRAMPOLIN has shut some offices is not surprising as 99% of their properties are SOLD. Also there were 2 large building firms went down recently and the market is uneasy, although I am not looking at our situation through rose tinted glasses  I do not feel that this is the moment to abandon all hope, I am concerned of course but I cannot see how Campos Del Rio can really do with out us.

 

Regards

Brian




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14 May 2008 7:19 PM by kikolibby Star rating in blackpool. 13 forum posts Send private message

hi everyone, i have just recieved an email from my estate agent saying that she would travel 90 km to meet me on tuesday the 20th. this is to pick tiles etc, would she really arrange this if the company was going bang?. please remember this scaremongering is is what causes petrol shortages, northern rock collapses etc!!!


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14 May 2008 7:47 PM by andy wild Star rating. 37 forum posts Send private message

 
Hi to everyone on this forum
I have purchased from El Trampolin on their other development Lo Santiago. I bought 4 plots and designed my own villa which cost 700,000 Euros so I have had a few sleepless nights over the past nearly 4 years as I have heard countless times that Trampolin are going bust are totally illegal etc etc, so as you can see I have as large stake in this and no loyalty to Trampolin , but the people that know me know I say exactly what I think so here is my view on all this.
My house is at the top of the development on an extra piece of land bought after Lo Santiago and it is still classified as rustic at the moment this became apparent when I went to the sign for the papers for my land about 2 months ago since then Trampolin have agreed to all papers and contracts put in place by my solicitor and my solicitor is happy with the cooperation we have received from trampolin.
-We had an problem on our site a couple of months ago when water and electric was being cut off and I went to the office and spoke with Antonio at length saying that this wasn’t the way forward and communication is a better tool that cutting off utilities, he explain about the money he had to pay for the road then explain about how much money was owed on Lo Santiago and the relevant paper work was brought out showing 11,000,000 is outstanding on the development now to my knowledge there are no mortgages on the land or properties. So leaves a healthy balance sheet
Someone raise the issue that they have closed down offices I don’t blame them I have a small shop in San Javier and the overheads are unbelievable rent in Spain for commercials is crazy so I would hazard a guess but I don’t think you would have much change out of 9000 euros a month for the Torreveja office (all you sceptics out their ring up and price the empty office) and the wages are approx 1200 a month plus 30% employers contributions plus elec water and telephone. People haven’t noticed but the large advert on the c3319 has been taken down again I priced one for my shop 1100 euros a month so the cut backs to me don’t suggest a company going out of business but a company pulling in and cutting expenses same as a lot of the building companies out here.
As for all the problems at Campos Del Rio as I mentioned I have a small shop in San Javier it took me just short of 1 year to get the relevant papers to start to work and open the shop at a cost of 2000 Euros a month in rent whilst not being able to build( and this is without the interference of people for monitory or political motives ). So what they must have to do to get the approval god only knows but I believe that the planning will be finalised as the benefits to the area are greatly needed. So I feel that the project will go ahead and should anyone want to ask me any questions please PM me or call to my house on Lo Santiago it the last house on the main road casa 24 carril 21
best wishes to all
Andy
 



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14 May 2008 8:02 PM by dei Star rating. 23 forum posts Send private message

 

WELL SAID ANDY.....NICE TO SEE SOME OF THE OLD BRITISH CHARACTER COMING THROUGH...WE SURELY DO NEED IT NOW ....AS I TOO BELIEVE ALL WILL BE OK BUT I CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW MASS HYSTERIA CAN EASILY BE SPREAD NOW....THANK GOD FOR ANDY AND A LITTLE BIT OF REALISM...




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14 May 2008 9:01 PM by Clavel Star rating. 8 forum posts Send private message

There seems to be a lot of scaremongering re Trampolin Hills financial state. I guess there are quite a few builders having problems just now, but surely with the amount of properties sold at Campos del Rio, and with the deposits that are being held, earning interest for the Company, the only losers are those purchasers!!! They could have had this money, in the bank, earning themselves interest!!!   With regards to getting your money back!!!We have been looking to have our deposit returned and spoke to Pilar Cano [Lawyer?? to Trampolin Hills] on the telephone where she said we had three options, one being a return of deposit. We finally got a signed statement from her,  quoting the 3 options,but when our Lawyer spoke to her, she said they are not returning funds!!!! !!  The time is coming when Antonio has to answer for Trampolin and not hide behind Ms Cano. Perhaps we should get a delegation together???

 

 




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14 May 2008 9:51 PM by TVJ Star rating in Orpington, Kent. 76 forum posts Send private message

Just to reiterate what someone has already told us before and what I have had confirmed to me, Pilar Cano is not a solicitor.  From my recollection she does not hold the Spanish equivalent of what we have here in the UK a practicising certificate.  I think she is a senior sales person/advisor.  I could be wrong though before anyone slates me on that.  The two contacts that I was given as solicitors at TH are:

Martha- email: marta.canovas@grupotrampolin.com

 
 
  
Both can be reached also via the fixed line onTlf  968608185

 



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14 May 2008 10:01 PM by reach high Star rating in kent. 75 forum posts Send private message

hi everybody,

just a little song here, hope it raises a smile we need it,

 

Where do you go to my lovely when your alone in your bed , what are the things that surround you id like to look inside your head

 

how does that man sleep at night???

 

keep believing




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14 May 2008 10:29 PM by reach high Star rating in kent. 75 forum posts Send private message

Thank you TVJ for that info, im sure they are going to be busy.

Now you may all think im barking mad but it could be worse.  Ihave an idea, we have many many people on this site of all different nationalities who have purchased properties all in good faith, with the wish to live in a democratic country and see out their lives as they have been promised, with ahome in the sun.  IF now i am barking mad, if we all get together and i mean ALL and try and contact a higher authority, im not talking Campos del Rio or Murcia we need to go higher, we need to be heard, where would we go in our own countries ?? what if our local and regional councils lets us down, what if our primeminster let us down, where else would we go. Are you keeping up? Who else is there below God that is, yes our Queen and what about in spain none other than The King Of.  Yes the KIng of Spain. there must be a way and trust me I shall find it.  Will he really want  Thousands of differnet people , from all over the world undermining his country, hey already i have the name of the spanish finance minister Pedro Soldes so its a start.  Im not barking mad im just an ordinary person whos got a dream and a. whole in my bank balance, we could at least ruffle a few feathers, so lets get talking to each other Im happy to source the names required and then pass it on.  If anyone elsehas a better idea please let us know, im sure whatever will get a lot of support




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14 May 2008 10:57 PM by Billspain Star rating. 1 forum posts Send private message

We are with you Reach High, we need to do something, we need to start pestering the Spanish government (not just local). Anything that has ever been said about the situation of Trampolin Hills (good or bad) has all been hearsay. There is no concrete evidence to back up this hearsay. Where does this information come from, Trampolin Hills  who will obviously paint a pretty picture or the clients Lawyers, but where do they get their information from, normally newspaper articles!!!  There has been so much talk about different corruptions within Trampolin Hills and both sides of the political parties, but what can you believe. Like i said no concrete evidence just hearsay either way. We need the truth!!!


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14 May 2008 11:01 PM by Jude Farrar Star rating. 1 forum posts Send private message

Hi andy it is good to see that at last we know on whats going on thanks for speaking to antonio today and clearing a few things up .hope to see you soon kind regards garry and jude


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15 May 2008 9:05 AM by jackieinhove Star rating. 120 forum posts Send private message

Hi,

Does anyone know the register that keeps a record of qualified solicitors in Spain? I know there is one but dont know where or how to find it.

Thanks

Jackie


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15 May 2008 9:05 AM by reach high Star rating in kent. 75 forum posts Send private message

Good morning,

 

well well well what an evening brings I sent an email to pilar late last night thinking she d get it this morning and hey i got a fasvourable reply LAST NIGHT<  Anyway, i have found an article in ROUND TOWN NEWS, issue 354 rather old though july 2006, heading PROMOTORS OBLIGATIONS.  tHE QUESTION WAS  is the promoter obliged to give purchasers a guarantee for the advance of money, so to cut a long paragraph short the answer was YES The spanish act 57/68 in force since july 1968 says that the monies should be paid into a SPECIAL account.  Now i know some of you have guarantees , but are still encompassing problems, but those of us that dont should take some comfort from this as it would seem and i say seem because i do not know all the law that TH  it would appear gave us contracts that were not LAW.  Unfortunately i do not know how to put this article on the site, however the solicitor who wrote this article was Juan Angel Alvarez-Gomez Gonzalez at Euro-Abogados,  , unfortunately he is no longer there.  I have spoken with them today and will send an email to try and get some more info.  If anyone knows how to contact the King of Spain im on a mission




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15 May 2008 9:09 AM by jackieinhove Star rating. 120 forum posts Send private message

Hi Reach High,

Snap, posted same time,

Just reading your post, do you think you can get information on how to find if solicitor is legal or not. There is a register somehwere.

thanks!
Jackie


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15 May 2008 9:13 AM by jogary Star rating in UK. 193 forum posts Send private message

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You are right, it is a legal requirement for the developer to give you a bank guarentee when you buy off plan. However, if you hand over money without one, you are not protected. It was your choice to go ahead without one.

Similarly, a company guarentee is worthless because if the company goes under, who are you going to claim from? Your money has been spent!

A bank guarentee can only be used if a company goes bust. You can't claim your money back because of delays in the building process. Also, check it is still in date etc.

 

 




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15 May 2008 9:15 AM by ROUGHDIAMOND Star rating in Bristol. 88 forum posts Send private message

Hi everyone

I agree with Reach High if we can reach someone in a high position in the Spanish goverment and see if they can put pressure on the local politicians to expedite this situation.

Reach High, with my basic knowledge I think the person we should be aiming for would be the Deputy Prime Minister if we can get hold of him and if we can hit them with enough requests to sort this situation out it might just might happen. I am sure that TH will go ahead but if we leave it to the local politicians to keep MUCKING us about scoring points of each other then it could take many years before we can enjoy living our dream.

I am also going to contact my local MP Liam Fox (as we are in a Euorpean Union) tell him about the situation and see if he can get an EMP to get mattter raised, after all we are the innocent party here, and we do have RIGHTS. 

Regards

Brian

 




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