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08 Oct 2016 7:02 PM by DelandMax Star rating in Berkshire. 63 forum posts Send private message

I am interested to know if any owners on phase 1 are paying more than 500 Euros per quarter community fees. This would include the extra amount we are having to pay at the moment.

I'm not trying to nosy, so a simple yes or no would be great. Perhaps adding your block number as well.

Please feel free to ignore if you so wish.



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08 Oct 2016 9:47 PM by Paulpins Star rating. 37 forum posts Send private message

I don't mind one bit saying what ours are 325 euros with the increase Paul and Laura block 48 phase 1 




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09 Oct 2016 10:11 PM by DelandMax Star rating in Berkshire. 63 forum posts Send private message

I'm paying 518 Euros - Block 57



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09 Oct 2016 11:59 PM by DuncanMcG Star rating in Manchester, UK. 377 forum posts Send private message

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Might be better to ask this on the private owners forum as there are reasons why a few blocks are paying more than the majority of blocks. These are probably best not discussed on a public forum.

For the record, my community fees are €308 per quarter after the exceptional charge this year. They used to be €275. I'm in Block 56


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10 Oct 2016 1:46 AM by DelandMax Star rating in Berkshire. 63 forum posts Send private message

I hear what you are saying Duncan. As a new owner, I just want to find out why my fees are so high compared with most others on the phase, that's all. I decided here was the best place to ask. It would seem I am paying 50%  more than others for something I know nothing about and/or wasn't involved in when it apparently happened.

Left in the dark and paying the price.



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10 Oct 2016 10:12 AM by RichA4 Star rating. 351 forum posts Send private message

Hi del & max

Have you tried to contact your block president regarding this as they will of agreed the figure for the community fees for this year .

I'm the block 275 president and the process I took was to email all owners well before the AGM with three choices for the coming years community fees and let everyone vote on what they felt was best for us as a block going forward .

The figures were generated by resortalia & myself,  there are a few reasons  why blocks pay  different fees especially with the increase that we had to include this year , the fundamental reason is each block had at that time a  reserve fund for things like painting etc also an emergency fund for repairs , these are a % taken each month from your fees .

Depending on how much each block had in these funds and how much of this was used to offset the increase , for example block 276 next to us had been paying more in fees in previous years than 275 so they had more in the pot than us , they used this larger pot to off set the increase resulting in lower fees than us this year .

When I sent the email offering everyone a choice it was basically how much we used from our reserve and how much we keep.We are paying just over 400 a few people are not happy but the majority understand. When spain sorts it's government out and sareb start selling off its assets the better for us all.

Hope this helps a little .

 

Richard 

 



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10 Oct 2016 10:18 AM by clieve Star rating in south wales & Phase .... 194 forum posts Send private message

Hi,

To find out more information on your block contact Resortalia Tel 0034 968 031 365  tlt@resortalia

Your block president should also be able to help in this matter, he will know the budget of your block.

 

The name of your president is Mr Luis Garcia De La Duena.

Regards

 


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10 Oct 2016 7:23 PM by DuncanMcG Star rating in Manchester, UK. 377 forum posts Send private message

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Hi DelandMax,

The same people who have responded to you here are also members of the owners forum

There are a few pots that your community fees go into:

  • The costs for maintenance of the resort - the community budget (security, gardening, mosquito treatment, irrigation, street lighting, pool maintenance etc.)
  • The community reserve fund (provision for bad debt etc.)
  • The costs for maintenance of your block - the block budget (cleaning, lighting, lift maintenance, fire extinguisher maintenance etc.)
  • The block reserve fund (painting fund, block improvement fund, emergency repair fund etc.)

The fees are also apportioned by apartment size. The larger the apartment, the larger the proportion of fees.

From the above you can see there can be many reasons why fees are different on a block by block and apartment by apartment basis. A block could in fact decide to use their local funds to install a communal satellite dish for example. Some may decide to build up a reserve fund and painting fund. Others might decide to use the reserve fund or painting fund to subsidise fees to smooth out exceptional community charges like the provision for Polaris World debt this year.

There may even be implications to the building up of the block painting fund and emergency fund depending on the number of debtors in a block or the things like the emergency repair fund have been used for. There may even be higher costs for block maintenance depending on whether your block has 11, 16 or 32 apartments.

Block budgets are set and approved annually. Some block presidents are more active in engaging other block residents in these decisions than others. The only way to influence these decisions is to mobilise your block and/or stand for block president yourself. 

As clieve and RichA4 have said, the only way to get the details of your own block accounts is to ask Resortalia or your block president. Details on how to contact both are available in the private owners area. I cannot put your president's email address here for obvious reasons.

Having said all that, community fees over 2000€ per annum do seem excessive compared to my 1200€, paulpins 1300€ or even RichA4s 1600€.


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11 Oct 2016 7:46 PM by DelandMax Star rating in Berkshire. 63 forum posts Send private message

Thank you all for your replies and information provided.

I have now received some private correspondence which clears up any concerns I had. All I will say is that there was more than meets the eye regarding my concerns, which on paper, I could not have known about until informed privately.

I will still be feeling it in my walllet unfortunately, but at least now I know why.

I wonder if the community will allow a busker on site.laugh

 



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11 Oct 2016 8:37 PM by DuncanMcG Star rating in Manchester, UK. 377 forum posts Send private message

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We could always have Saturday nights with Del and Max at Saurines.

SingalongaDelandMax. wink

Anyway glad you got to the bottom of it.


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