"THE CON OF ALL CONS" I WANT MY MONEY

AS YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE THE OPPERTUNITY TO MOVE TO ANOTHER PROPERTY. WHEN I SAID I WANT MY DEPOSIT BACK , THEN THE CONVERSATION CHANGED AND I WAS LITERALY FOBBED OFF THEY COULD NOT GET RID OF ME QUICK ENOUGH. ALL THEY SAY WHAT THE COURT HAS RULED DEPOSIT BACK 60% 5 YEARS TIME CANT WAIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have not been on the forum for a couple of years but kept on looking now & again.

Just thought would let you know what i received today from courts via my solicitors

A contract to be signed for repayment of my deposit (or i should say 65% of it)Main point being nothing for first 3 years,repeat nothing for first 3 years,10% in year 4 and remainder in year 5.

What a load of Sxxt,whoever voted for the proposal put forward by HDT should have their head examined,SIgn these contracts and HDT can go into bankruptcy anytime they want in the next 3 years and we get nothing.

Tony

Aren't u lucky, u at least got some communication, albeit no help at all!!

Do we all have different lawyers?  Ours is PSI.

The answer is absolutely clear to me .Get a good lawyer  !!!!! 

Don't listen to any more "bull " 

Martin de  la herran  will give you the truth the whole truth & nothing but the truth.

I know !!!!

He got me my whole deposit  back plus 6 % interest plus the whole court costs  & it only cost me 2K, money well spent  !!!

He is a super star .Thank you Martin  you are a star  in a dark sky. Thanks  xxx JA

Hi JA, thanks for your advice and I am happy ypi had a good result.

To balance off your comments, I have the same lawyer that you do, or did, We have paid a similar amount that you have.

Before your recommendation is taken up by anyone in the market for a new lawyer, please have the following information to make your deciosion more balanced.

I feel that not having a bank guarantee when we should have had one is against the law in Spain.  I feel the builder is culpable for not providing one when we gave over our deposits.

I also feel the Builder should have been made to answer to that point in the administration process, and that the lawyer should have made a point of taking this up in the strongest regard. 

I wrote to my solicitor to ask for information on this point a few weeks ago and I had a reply that he would look into it and send me a reply, I still await a reply.

I am dissapointed that the lawyers have not gone to town on the builder with regard to missing bank guarantees.  My view is that this was against the law, and my lawyer was paid to challenge any broken law by the builder.

There are no shining stars in the sky in this awful mess, only facts and litigation.  The lawyers should be good at it, its what they are paid for.  Dont choose your lawyer on the basis of that last post, look very very carefully and choose with caution.

Hi All

I expect you may be aware of this, but please click the link below, a shepherd at Christmas is not always a good thing!!

http://www.eyeonspain.com/blogs/costaluz/4703/legal-tip-416santa-ana-del-monte-supreme-court-for-sustainable-development-another-proof-of-a-solid-legal-system.aspx

Regards

Clive

Hi All,

Is it not a shame that a few people and particularly those who are not purchasers or creditors of SADM/HdT feel the need to carry on making snide and daft remarks.  As for Maria's blog,  the final water licence has been presented to the court for the new phase 1 at SADM but arrived late and the court are going to have to review it in January.

Wishing you all the best and a Happy  New Year.

Tony

There you go. Thunderbirds are go straight away. I Thought there would be a simple explanation to it. It's not that it was an important document after all this time eh. Start as they mean to go on, professional as ever.

 If you can organise my money back Tony then I will stop posting, until then my message back to Tracy island is to watch them like hawks.
 

Hi Tony

A few things you should know, I brought into SADM September 2004, i consider therefore i have the right to post.

In my opinion you have acted as an agent for SADM/HDT ever since the formation of SARC, so much so SARC's moves have been quite transparent :-

Campaign for a yes vote

Campaign to dissuade investors not to take legal action against SADM/HDT

In fact you have made the case for SADM/HDT every step of the way .

I have a place in Spain not far from Pinet, should you ever need to stay in Spain because you are about to sign your contract at SADM you are welcome to use my casa free of charge (i do not expect this offer to be taken up, you will have a place supplied by others i expect.

Wednesday December 29, 2010        anyone any more news

LAS MACRO QUE TODO LO PUEDEN THE MACRO THAT ALL MAY

 

UN CABRERO FRENA UNA MACROURBANIZACIÓN Y UN CAMPO DE GOLF EN JUMILLA A FRENA CABRERO MACROURBANIZACIÓN AND A GOLF COURSE IN JUMILLA
DAVID VUELVE A VENCER A GOLIAT DAVID BEAT GOLIATH AGAIN
El Tribunal Supremo da la razón al pastor ante el enfado del alcalde socialista The Supreme Court agrees with the pastor before the anger of the Socialist mayor

(Pascual Carrión, posando con su ganado) (Pascual Carrión, posing with their cattle) VMPress. VMPress.

 The Supreme Court has halted the construction of 2,285 homes and a golf course in the town of Jumilla Murcia after withdrawal in 2006 of a pastor, who feared that the invasion of concrete cutting off his 500 sheep and 70 goats, not have enough water to give drink to the new inhabitants of his village.  It is the second ruling in favor of the farmer, Pascual Carrión.. The first was suspended after the city of Jumilla because the resort had no opportunity to comment, according to today's newspaper. 

The Superior Court of Justice in Murcia in 2007 opposed the interim suspension of urban icons of that should prevail when considering the "general interests" of the municipality on the pastor.  Now, the judges of the Supreme tug at their ears to the regional court. According to the ruling, which had access Efe, the Board considers that "urban development should prevail implicit in the agreements challenged, without taking into account the appellant's arguments, which, in summary, I presented a private interest in maintaining consistent the traditional pastoral fate of their lands, and along with it, insisted on the absence of an adequate water supply for planned urban development. "

Carrion, 57, will not pay a single euro "to mitigate or prevent possible damages that might result in delaying the implementation of these instruments of urban planning. The pastor is facing the San Jose Group, a conglomerate which 1,083 million euros turnover in 2009, according to its own figures The group, Orihuela, is author of the recent enlargement of the Prado Museum in Madrid, a stretch of high-speed train from Madrid to Valencia and a multitude of projects in Spain, Eastern Europe and Latin America.

Contra todos Against all
2008. Carrion refused to sell his 30 acres of land to a subsidiary of Grupo San José, Herrada of Tollo, which filed for bankruptcy in 2008.revealed last March, the City was willing to expropriate the land for 2.6 million euros.

. The pastor is facing not only the promoter. . The session, led by Francisco Abellán Martínez, the PSOE, also supports the larger project of 2,285 homes, a town of about 23,000. del Monte Jumilla Golf. Full Jumilla City Council approved the December 5, 2006 the urban plan, known as Santa Ana del Monte Jumilla Golf. Y el 13 de diciembre de ese mismo año la Junta de Gobierno local aprobó definitivamente el Programa de Actuación. And on 13 December that same year the Local Government Board finally approved the Action Plan. El ganadero recurrió entonces ambos acuerdos. The farmer then appealed both resolutions.

La batalla judicial en la que se metió ha sido escabrosa. The legal battle in which he got was rough. El 9 de octubre de 2007, el Tribunal Superior de Justicia de Murcia desestimó sus denuncias. On October 9, 2007, the Tribunal Superior de Justicia de Murcia dismissed their complaints. Pero el pastor no se rindió y presentó un recurso de súplica. But the pastor did not give up and lodged an appeal.

El propio ayuntamiento presentó un escrito de oposición al recurso del cabrero. The council itself filed an opposition to the use of the goatherd. El 26 de diciembre, el tribunal regional volvió a tumbar las pretensiones de Carrión y permitió que continuaran las obras. On 26 December, the regional court returned to knock down the claims of Carrion and allowed to continue the work. Pero el pastor acudió al Supremo, y ahora ha salido ganador. But the pastor went to the Supreme Court, and has now come out winner.

En una de sus victorias parciales contra el cabrero en los tribunales, el alcalde socialista afirmó: "Ahora se demuestra que siempre actuamos dentro de la legalidad". In one of his partial victory against the goatherd in the courts, the Socialist mayor said: "Now it shows that we always act within the law."

 

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Hey Blaggy thanks for posting this news .However not a great translation for those who do not speak Spanish.Can we post a better translation ? I will have a look and see what I can do .

One of the problems on here is that every time anyone  posts an article so much is lost in translation . People get the gist but not the facts.  I believe  you  are fluent in  Spanish  but others need a better translation. to get to the facts of the matter .Perhaps rather than using an on line translators those of us who speak Spanish could translate a paragraph each ,that way it may make more sense especially the court/legal jargon.Perhaps Sue could help as her Spanish is now really good .  Just my thoughts as it irritates me when so much is lost in translation .Cheers JA

Hi Tony you posted this .

Julie Anne

Thank you for suggesting that I could help with the translation, however my Spanish is not "really good".  My level before we moved here was very basic.  As a matter of courtesy, I always try and learn enough words to get by when I go to a foreign country, so I did know some Spanish words and phrases but not a lot.  My understanding was not helped by the fact that when I was at school I learnt French.  After moving here we started going to Spanish classes, which has improved my Spanish to the level of basic rather than very basic - and of course being over 60 hasn't helped me remember all the words we learn, as my short term memory isn't as good as it was! 

Seriously, I am all too aware of the problems caused by somebody who doesn't have a good grasp of a language trying to explain something complicated to other people.  We see it on forums where some native English speakers don't express themselves clearly to other native English speakers and cause confusion!  I am not qualifed to translate legal jargon in particular.  Yes, I believe I understand much of what has been written, but is my understanding correct?  I would prefer it to leave it to people like yourself who are fluent in Spanish.

Sue

Hi All,

I have been down with a very nasty chect infection after going down with the flu, which I had whilst making my last posts.

As for Ja's postings I am afraid I am no longer going to respond to them ,as I view them as purely spitefull mischief making from some one who is not in the same boat as the rest of us.

Wishing you ALL all of the best & a much better year

TonyMal

Tony,

Hope you feel better, I don't agree with all you have done as you know but I am with you on the JA front sick to death of her!!!!

How I see it is that there are many who only wnat to read and believe one side of the story. JA gives the other side and get slated for it.
Why.
Perhaps if you had someone like JA commenting when you were about to purchase, you would have thought twice and not be in the mess some find they are.