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05 Dec 2008 00:00 by oldcastle Star rating. 7 forum posts Send private message

To all,

My colleague and I are serving Police Officers caught up in EBCC. The matter is now being looked at. I ask  people in a similiar situation as ourselves to PM me in order that we can assess the scale of the problem with a view to taking the matter forward to its obvious conclusion.

Regards

Oldcastle

 

 




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07 Dec 2008 11:36 by Paul N Star rating. 4 forum posts Send private message

I suggest anyone with an interest buys the sunday express and read the article. "Tv star is £200,000 victim of Spanish property swindle." All the money has apparently vanished!    Well that's a surprise 




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07 Dec 2008 18:33 by Suzie Star rating in England. 121 forum posts Send private message

A friendly reminder to please sign Our Petition if you are caught up in an illegal build, trying to get your money back, etc.  Our Petition will be presented to the Prime Minister in the New Year.  He has already been made aware of this.  The more signatures we can get, the better.  A Lawyer Complaints Document is also being compiled alongside Our Petition.

Thanks for taking the time to sign; it could make all the difference.

www.spanishpropertyscandalpetition.co.uk

Regards, Suzanne




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07 Dec 2008 18:53 by KaLe Star rating. 40 forum posts Send private message

is that todays express ?

 




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07 Dec 2008 18:53 by chilax Star rating. 43 forum posts Send private message

Hi there.

I thought the article was poor and  not very informative. What legal action has Mr Roberts taken??? What did the police have to say to the reporter if this is a scandal??? I feel this is a typical Express report.

I agree this situation needs to be sorted some way or another.

Was very surpised that the Express gave the directors home address!! Guess he'll want to move soon!

Lets see what happens next. Other developments seem to be moving though. I also bought in Dom Rep on Puna Perla through OVP, building work supposed t start January 09!! We shall see!!!!




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07 Dec 2008 19:06 by KaLe Star rating. 40 forum posts Send private message

Hi Chilax

Is it in todays paper? Cant get anything up on the internet..what is the article about and who is the named director?

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07 Dec 2008 19:27 by chilax Star rating. 43 forum posts Send private message

Hi Kale,

 

It metions Martin Roberts who's lost 200k from investing with them and the fact that he used to sell the properties from his franchise. Sean Woodhall who is supposed to be 'dead' somwhere in Brazil, Colin Thomas who is still a direcor of OVP. He has said that nobody will lose anything, an option will be available for other developments or a refund in February. He that they were just an agent and that all monies were always passed to the developers. Also said that Estepona license is coming soon! He said that when he found out that Sean Woodhall was a crook he cut all ties with him. Lets see what happens next.




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07 Dec 2008 19:38 by KaLe Star rating. 40 forum posts Send private message

Colin Thomas said all that?  He's usually so shy of publicity!

 




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07 Dec 2008 19:46 by chilax Star rating. 43 forum posts Send private message

I've never heard much about colin thomas. surprised the article never mentioned Ricardo Miranda, he is a massive key player in this development, dom rep and morocco. I'm sure there will be more to follow...

 




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07 Dec 2008 20:13 by KaLe Star rating. 40 forum posts Send private message

I'm not aware of Ricardo... Colin Thomas is the man behind OV but he always manages to stay out of the lime light.... puts others in the firing line usually.... he's not even listed as a director of OV but he is the money and brains behind the company. I keep waiting for him to take a holiday somewhere like .... ooh lets say.. Brazil ! In a light aircraft I imagine !




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07 Dec 2008 20:15 by wilma Star rating. 49 forum posts Send private message

If OV was just the agent..?? then why was the deposits paid to them..? they should have been paid direct to the developer. If Colin Thomas thinks that no-one will be out of pocket, he is very much mistaken...!! I am sure we could provide him with a list.. The men in the limelight are Jon Kenyon Smith, Mike Blades & Stuart Jones. Perhaps they should be interviewed by the press & friends of Oldcastle.


 



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07 Dec 2008 20:16 by KaLe Star rating. 40 forum posts Send private message

Anyway what does he mean ... no one will lose anything?? There are plenty who have lost thousands already......

 




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07 Dec 2008 20:17 by KaLe Star rating. 40 forum posts Send private message

Hi wilma.... spooky eh.... must have posted at the same time..... yes I could give him a list too

 




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07 Dec 2008 20:20 by wilma Star rating. 49 forum posts Send private message

Err, Martin Roberts has lost £200K.

I think & hope the net is tightening..or rather.. rope


 



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07 Dec 2008 20:25 by chilax Star rating. 43 forum posts Send private message

From my understanding of the article, it didn't say out of pocket it makes it sound like all clients will be provided with a property or a refund in Feb. Do I believe it, of course I dont!

Wouldn't  like to be any of the directors if this doesn't get sorted with a fair outcome for all of us!!




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07 Dec 2008 20:31 by KaLe Star rating. 40 forum posts Send private message

Isnt that good of them.... compensate people who didnt get a property they paid for with another property they will not get... they know how to win and win again dont they?

 




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07 Dec 2008 20:37 by wilma Star rating. 49 forum posts Send private message

I think Just Dan said it exactly how it is on the Manilva Beach thread

03 Dec 2008 11:29 AM

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You were all ripped off by a U K Company

Some developers were ripped off by this U.K Company

Some Sales agents were ripped off by this U.K Company

You were conned by a U.K Company that portrayed themselves as being F.S.A. Approved

You are being conned out of rent by a U.K Company

You were conned out of furniture.lied,cheated and had your lives ruined by a U>K Company

You are still being conned if you switch to Morrocco.

Spains system was never ever going to cope with in level of the corruption which of course they played a massive part in.

Simply put they have little idea how bad things are as they had their heads in the sand and thought the money gravy train who go on forever.

If anyone is waiting for a night in shinning armour to come along then its wake up time.

Sorry to be blunt .

 

Just Dan

 




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07 Dec 2008 21:05 by chilax Star rating. 43 forum posts Send private message

Yes he has a point but he doesn't have any worth while suggestions, its all very well stating the obvious but we all need ideas on how to get out of this mess. We have to fight for whats ours not give up.




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08 Dec 2008 09:12 by Just Dan Star rating. 440 forum posts Send private message

 

ERRrrrrr.  . Like if I did I would post it on an open forum 

First you start with reality of where the problem started.

Just Dan




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08 Dec 2008 10:01 by goodstich44 Star rating in northampton. 1664 forum posts Send private message

chilax

yes you are right. We all know the reality. We all got conned by a bunch of crooks!! .  I don't see them as 'clever'  as Dan calls them. Most of us could be wealthy if we had no morals, and would stoop to any level!!

If everyone writes to their mp, and mep, then that's a start.  The only way change will come is by pressure in numbers i think. There are various petitions being set up on this and SPI forum, everyone can do their bit and sign these with comments. The lawyers 'lawbird' also have some useful info' on their pages, and are very helpful with questions many are asking.

nobody is prentending change will happen fast, or that many have not lost everything and many of us will still continue to lose everything. The lack of regulation in Spain also applies to justice,  but we have to keep putting pressure on those who can make a difference, however long it takes!




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