Tax relief

Kenny e commented on this in an earlier response.

This indicates (at least on his Manzana) that the developer pays community fees on new apartments (unsold) and hence is entitled to vote at AGM.  Sounds fair enough.

However, I have heard that on some Manzanas that the developer may not be paying such fees (possibly on M.3?) and hence should not have any power to vote at AGM.

What is the concensus view on this?  Do you think / know that the developer is paying such fees on your Manzana?  In the case of apartments up for resale, any unpaid fees mean that the current owner cannot vote at AGM.  Again a reasonable state of affairs.

On a related matter, one problem facing owners who wish to put forward a proposal for the benefit of their particular community have great difficulty contacting other owners other than at AGM.  The Administrators have email addresses for those owners on email but apparently cannot release these details due to the equivalent of the Data Protection Act.  One way around could be to request the Administrators / President include a note with AGM notice details asking each owner if they are happy to sign a "release note" whereby owners can contact other owners (by email or via an official website similar to Eye on Spain) on any community issue -  this would be an useful addition to communication channels for owners not living in the apartments ?

Has anyone established such channels already?

Just to confirm once again that owners including the developer absolutely only has the right to vote on apartments whose community fees are paid in full and that they cannot to my knowledge ever have votes counted on apartments out of that scenario.

I agree that a communication channel would be beneficial in some situations, although some owners appreciate the privacy and escapism that owning abroad provides.  Of course, whilst this forum has provided greater communication between owners and has recently provided some very revealing information directly from source, it is also infiltrated by liars and rumour-mongerers eager to generate business and confusion.

Amitista Fase I, I believe has / had a website of their own, the success of which was balanced by frustration.  Some owners posted and read the official information, some posted and did not read the official information, some did neither.  This resulted in everything having to be repeated at meetings anyway.

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Two points in your previous post:

1 - Contact with owners.  Hope somebody can come up with a good idea here.  I have tried to get a database of owners together with little success.  I have tried advertising on here - no response.  On our last visit I put letters in every postbox of our manzana, with the blessing and help of our president - no response.  Try as I might to make contact, I have only managed to "speak" (and I use that term to mean all forms of communication) with about five people. If there was a problem with my apartment I would want another owner to make contact with me to let me know and I find this lack of enthusiasm strange.  And yes I know there are a lot of absent owners and not everybody speaks English . . . and not everybody monitors this website and every other problem that you can think of. 

2 - Unsold is the important word here.  Kennye says that La Reserva (Penarroya) pay the community fees on all the apartments they own, ie completely unsold, - I hope this is true, it is a question we have been asking ourselves as  there are a number of apartments in our manzana that they appear to own and they are not showing as debtors.  They certainly do not pay the community fees on any apartments that are under deposit but have not yet completed.  Beware - as kennye has said on previous postings the debts are building daily,  I am not convinced on the position of this - when it suits them we are owners and liable for debts, but at the same time we are not owners and cannot gain free access to the apartment nor make a snagging report