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16 Apr 2010 12:23 AM by disillusioned Star rating. 12 forum posts Send private message

the lawyers are in it for themselves. It was suggested to them that they sue the council and the banks  when TH was still around but they said before we had no deal with them ,so we could not sue them. Now when the company is not worth suing they want us to sue the council and banks. They just want your money ,more scams nobody in Spain is worth dealing with. Standards are not the same.


 



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16 Apr 2010 1:08 PM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

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Redman: to go against the Banks would be a long legal process with really low guarantees of success.

Please bear in mind that he Law 67/1968 states in article 1.2ª, that THE PROMOTER is obliged to get the deposits paid by buyers on a special bank account open in a Bank (or Caja de Ahorros), keeping them apart from any other Promoter's funds. The funds lodged into this special account just can be used for the building purposes, and the Bank is liable just if it allows the Promoter withdraw money from this special account for different purposes.

in this cases, Trampolin just openned an special account in "La Caixa", which is the one where all the deposits covered by a guarantee were lodged. From this account buyers with propers guarantees are getting their money back (even with expired guarantees or copies- we have represented a few with a 100% success rate), and there is still some money because it seems some buyers haven't executed their guarantee yet. But any money from this account has been released from La Caixa.

What you are suggesting is to "force" the law interpretation, which is not easy, more if you consider that there is no precendent at all. It is a great case for a lawyer, but you should now that it is very risky, because there are quite a lot probabilities of losing the case, and the loser will have to pay the defense cost then (his lawyer's fees and the lawyer's fees from the Bank).

So anyone who intends to follow this way must be aware about the risk. My opinion is that there are more secure ways.

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16 Apr 2010 1:18 PM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

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To Desillusioned:

please note that the reason why some lawyers (as me) are advising now to proceed against the Twon Hall is because a recent sentence from the Murcia Administrative Court has openned a door for the buyers in order to request the Council (and even the Murcia Regional government) liability and, consecuently, get their money back from them.

Before, anyone taking actions against the town hall should have probed the link between the lost of his deposits and the Town Hall behaviour. But now the above sentence, which could become soon definitive (res iudicata), has fixed the Town Hall liability, because its way of proceding in the planning approval was against the law. So any buyer who wants to take legal actions now against the Town Hall has much more probabilites to win than before.

I am really sorry about your bad expiriences with the Spanish people, but belive me, in Spain there are good people and good profesionals.

 

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17 Apr 2010 7:57 AM by pff001 Star rating. 126 forum posts Send private message

Hi Guadalupe

if the case against the town hall is successfull could the town hall go into liquidation to avoid paying us out.




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18 Apr 2010 4:18 PM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

 

Latest news of the arrests of Antonio Martinez and his partner Raffeal. (Taken from the spanish newspaper la verdad)

"Please, please, please ... Do not send me to prison, sir. Please, please ... If necessary I stand every day of my life before the Civil Guard, but do not send me to prison. Please, please ...». It was past one o'clock on Saturday when Rocío Fons Thomas, head of the Investigating Court 2 of Mula, the judge investigating alleged crimes of fraud and misappropriation around urban project  of Trampolin Hills Golf Resort in Campos del Río , informed Antonio Martínez, popularly known as 'El Gitano', what was his decision: the order of avoidable imprisonment, with bail of 600,000 euros (one hundred million pesetas).

The developer collapsed: "I cannot pay that money, sir. I have no money. Do not send me to prison. Please please please ...», repeated, as if reciting a mantra. There was pain and fear in his eyes. Your partner and friend, Rafael Aguilera, who had been in the same car and in whose company entered a little later in the prison of Sangonera, reciting his own 'prayer': 'But if I all I did was work thats all I've ever done ...».

The case for Antonio Martinez and Rafael Aguilera had begun to paint a very black picture early on Thursday, at the time that agents of the Judicial Police of the Guardia Civil were presented at their respective homes in Sucina road and informed them of their custody. After two years of judicial inquiry if the judge had given orders to bring them in handcuffs then t hat was because he knew that it was time to take a qualitative leap in the investigation of the case.
After an entire day by taking their statement and  of the stepdaughter of Anthony and alleged 'front man' you, Silvia RM, arrived about midnight at the delicate moment: the appearance in which Rocío Fons would decide what action taken against the three detainees.

The prosecutor, who did not oppose that she be released, called for the imprisonment of the two partners, first by the gravity of the facts against them-about crimes of aggravated fraud and misappropriation by that could become sentenced to a maximum of 16 years in prison, and also considering that there could be an escape risk.
Nevertheless, considering that both have family roots in the region, did not oppose that could avoid incarceration if they paid a high bail, and said the estimated figure of 800,000 euros per head.

The lawyer of the two suspects, José Antonio García Sánchez, opposed to this request with all legal weapons at their disposal: denied that the acts attributed to Antonio Martinez and Rafael Aguilera may be included in the criminal type of scam, as it ensured that His will has always been to build the development and external circumstances that were thwarted the project, said his clients could not pay the bond in any way and that this would make an order as "inevitable prison," and insisted that no There is no risk of escape, as it would have been demonstrated by the fact that in the two years since the alleged fraud being investigated they have been presented several times to testify and have attended fifty civil trials.

Furthermore, after counsel he picked up a very unusual legal action, to ask a witness in this case at this action who is called Pedro Bascuñana and is an accountant, who has worked for Hills Trampoline and said he never found that the money delivered to the customers, accounting for up to 53 million euros, had been used for purposes other than to promote urbanization.
Millions
ACCOUNTS OF SOME OTHER
The judge was not convinced by the arguments of counsel and ended up dictating paths of detention orders  and circumvented bail of 600,000 euros. In its order, the instructor points out that society both mounted Trampolin Hills Golf Resort SL, "without more goods than the mandatory $ 3,000," and who used his business network to pick between mid 2005 and until 2008 a number of clients in Spain and abroad, mainly the UK, to sell homes in Campos del Rio and other promotion planning in Albudeite.
Also review the land for both projects were of rustic nature, since they had not been reclassified, and in some cases were not even a formal offer yet, "to have only one option on them."
The judge explained that the received money on account of those buyers was not put in a special account, (except a small amount), as required by law or given legal guarantees, granted by these amounts, as they did it with documents issued in the name of Grupo Trampolin itself or Finantial Swiss Corporation, a 'market stall' financial group unauthorized to work in Spain.

The clients' money used by the company "as a means to finance its own activities."
The same operation was repeated with the urban background, by Antonio Martinez and Rafael Aguilera, in the town of Albudeite, where he later began to promote a housing development of 330 luxury villas. Also in this case took advance payments, around 25,000 euros per buyer, however we do not have built the houses.

 The instructor finally emphasizes that Solera  el trampolin account  , which came to be 4.6 million euros in just three days was taken outt nearly three million euros, "of which the defendant has failed to say where is their destiny. "
This is not exactly true, as this newspaper has found that, in his statement, Antonio Martinez said at first not to remember those outgoings of money, but then said that two million had been earmarked to pay a land Campos del Rio and the remaining one million had joined the Treasury to pay VAT.

Fear for your life

A gun found
If the situation was delicate enough for Antonio Martinez,  there was still more for his partner, as the Civil Guard had been located, during the search of his home, a gun brand 'Glock' in a drawer in the table night. Rafael Aguilera, has no license and for that reason also faces a charge of illegal possession of weapons.
Aguilera confessed that he had recently acquired this gun, after being the victim of a serious threat to his life by clients who wanted their money back and supposedly, they pointes a  gun in the head and forced him to a car. He was released by a Civil Guard patrol, who had been alerted by an employee of Grupo Trampolin.

As regards the stepdaughter of Antonio Martínez, Silvia RM, the judge decided to grant freedom, the only obligation to report once a month in court. So much for his statement as that of his stepfather became clear that the work of this young girl in the promoting companies was purely instrumental and merely appear as a partner and manager, simply because Antonio Martinez asked. "I signed for four or five times where I was told," he acknowledged.
A bond 'poisoned'

IN SEARCH OF HIDDEN MONEY
He has done so consciously or not, the fact is that the decision of the judge to impose fines of 600,000 euros paths Antonio Martinez and Rafael Aguilera is a measure 'poisoned'. If both say, as we have done, that  they cannot afford to pay it, remain in prison for a while, at least until the District Court decides otherwise, if they choose.
And, conversely, if they bring that money to the court, it could be interpreted in practice as they have large amounts of hidden money, which would have deviated from the planned developments, and could become a sign of the alleged misappropriation.
In these circumstances, the evidence is that both will remain in prison for a longer or shorter time, at least two or three weeks is the minimum time that the Court usually takes to see and determine appeals of cases involving prisoner. The two partners will have to be left to think about it.




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19 Apr 2010 8:26 PM by disillusioned Star rating. 12 forum posts Send private message

 

 

ANTONIO IS NOT TOO KEEN ON PRISON THEN !!!He must have heard about the jobby stabbers!!!!!

 

I hope he meets a lot of them.




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20 Apr 2010 2:01 PM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

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TO PFF01


A TOWNHALL CANNOT GO INTO LIQUIDATION. PLEASE CHECK ARTICLE 1.3 OF THE SPANISH MEETING OF CREDITORS LAW (LEY 22/2003, DE 9 JULIO, CONCURSAL).


THAT ARTICLE STATES: "No podrán ser declaradas en concurso las entidades que integran la organización territorial del Estado, los organismos públicos y demás entes de derecho público", WHICH MEANS THAT THE PUBLIC ENTITIES WHICH INTEGRATE THE TERRITORIAL ORGANIZATION OF THE ESTATE AND OTHER PUBLIC ORGANISM CAN'T BE DECLARED INTO A MEETING OF CREDITOS (CAN'T GO INTO LIQUIDATION).

 

REGARDS

 



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21 Apr 2010 10:24 PM by disillusioned Star rating. 12 forum posts Send private message

if that is the case then we can sue them anytime and if we win we will get our money back




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22 Apr 2010 11:22 AM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

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Sorry desillusioned, but you aren't right. The law states a term of one year time from the date the damage is produced. So there is a year time from the sentence date to claim against Campos del Rio townhall.




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22 Apr 2010 10:20 PM by disillusioned Star rating. 12 forum posts Send private message

well yes that is normal even in the uk , so what date is the date for damage. The date of liquidation  or the date of contract expiry or any other date?




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24 Apr 2010 9:56 AM by Whistleblower Star rating. 4 forum posts Send private message

What are the Guardia Civil doing about seizing the assets of Martinez and Aguilera? What has happened to “Teflon Ronnie” who is just as guilty the other two fraudsters? What happened about Andrew Wilford and his Querella; did he get his money? He used to contribute quite vociferously on both Trampolin Forums so I assume he has or died! Does anyone know if these two fraudsters are still in prison or are they still out to cheat more unsuspecting victims?




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26 Apr 2010 9:26 AM by Andrew Wilford Star rating. 189 forum posts Send private message

Your post has been brought to my attention and I can assure that “rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated”. I tend not to use “Eye on Spain” any more since as far as “Hills” is concerned the caution I have previously indicated to that “site” have been dismissed as “rubbish” by the likes of “Jackie from Hove” and “Rough Diamond” … I bet they wish they had listened to me now! With regards to Solera I know most of those involved and prefer to communicate with them by email; indeed I only use the Forum if it is to highlight some of the irregularities of the Authorities and the Banks. Anyway … since you have asked I will tell you what my situation is.

I have achieved a Civil Sentence against Solera and an outstanding “Querella” against Rafael; the first stage in this convoluted Spanish Legal process was heard on 12th April when he had to concede before the Judge THAT HE WAS GUILTY OF FRAUD! My Lawyers will have placed before the Courts on Friday … maybe Monday … papers suggesting that there is no requirement for a trial since Rafael has already admitted his guilt. He has tried to blame Mey, Maria, Pilar, Antonio and TO ME DIRECTLY Richard Cummins. What he already has offered to me personally are several properties in settlement but this is not acceptable. My Lawyers have offered him the alternative of a Mortgage of in excess of €250K against his own property but because he feels it is Linara’s he is attempting to resist this. However, I have documentation which has been shared with the Guardia Civil that proves that all three of the partners have NOT paid for their properties and so they belong to the Company … Solera. Additionally, I have an embargo in place against the €1million held as security by the Murcia Town Hall but … surprise surprise … the Council itself is nearly Bankrupt! The bottom line is that I am satisfied that I have enough options in place to resolve this matter. My case of “Fraud” is further advanced in legal terms than the current cases which have resulted in the imprisonment of Martinez and Alguilera . They are in prison simply because the Judge felt they were likely to flee the country and with possible sentences of around 16 years, NOT believing that they do not know where the money is hidden he clearly felt that Prison was the best place for them! With my case Rafael is facing … as a SECOND FRAUD CASE … is facing an additional +-6 years … maybe he should have thought about that before together with Richard (as HE TOLD ME) stealing my property / cash!

What the recent “incarceration” of Martinez and Alguilera has highlighted is the potential involvement of third parties. A highly incriminating document has been given to the Guardia Civil which details a great many of the  actions taken to hide the companies assets. This document has, I understand, been signed and witnessed. It is already fairly common knowledge that Antonio entrusted some of his cash to two prominent individuals on the development of El Trampolin … one of these individuals has, I understand, now “purchased” the garage / villa (Plot 135) … and it does rather beg the question as to what Rafael has done with the cash or has he simply entrusted it to this individual in the hope that he can avoid the inevitable! From reading the newspaper reports I notice that when Rafael’s home was searched a “Glock handgun was found” … ironically this same individual who has obtained Plot 135 to my certain knowledge posses guns since I was present (with another person) when he himself was assembling an AK47 Assault rifle supposedly for use on / by Antonio together with bullet proof vests!

Yes it would appear that the net is starting to close very tightly around these thieves and hopefully their associates. As for Rafael he has time to reflect whilst in Prison upon the money he has stolen from me and has a careful “balance” to weigh up … 6 years or €300K … for me that would be no contest. Remember my case is VERY different to the enormous fraud being investigated at Hills. My case is solely against Rafael and I am ONE and not 1500! He has already now admitted fraud in my case … albeit stating that Richard Cummins had the money … and that is that … FRAUD IS FRAUD … case proven!

As for those living on Solera I wish you all well but be very careful with whom you associate. There are three obvious “crooks”  on the site but with several associates … keep your friends close but your enemies closer!

All of the above has been reported to the Guardia Civil during a lengthy interview and it is interesting to note that as recently as last week they appeared to be acting upon some of the information received by removal of vehicles parked by the illegal apartments! Finally, the same information and that relating to CAM Bank and the Mortgage fraud has also been brought to their attention. To those of you on Phase 2 this may be good news”

Kind regards  … Andrew Wilford




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27 Apr 2010 2:53 PM by Guadalupe. Lawyer Star rating. 261 forum posts Send private message

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the date of the damage is when becomes definitive the sentence that turns the lands into rustic again because of the against -the - law managment of the urban process by the Council.

the other dates you suggest are not relevant, because are not the council's fault.




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29 Apr 2010 2:31 AM by pff001 Star rating. 126 forum posts Send private message

TO ANDREW WILFORD

Andrew please contine to post your views on EOS I not only find them usefull and informative but sometimes humorous aswell.

I see in your last post that you mention that the town hall of Murcia is nearly bankrupt. I am not sure if you are aware but some of

the buyers from TH are taking the council to court after they declared the land rustic and not urban. I expressed the same worry to

our lawyer who's reply i have pasted below. I just wondered what your thoughts were on this.

 

Regards

 

A TOWNHALL CANNOT GO INTO LIQUIDATION. PLEASE CHECK ARTICLE 1.3 OF THE SPANISH MEETING OF CREDITORS LAW (LEY 22/2003, DE 9 JULIO, CONCURSAL).


THAT ARTICLE STATES: "No podrán ser declaradas en concurso las entidades que integran la organización territorial del Estado, los organismos públicos y demás entes de derecho público", WHICH MEANS THAT THE PUBLIC ENTITIES WHICH INTEGRATE THE TERRITORIAL ORGANIZATION OF THE ESTATE AND OTHER PUBLIC ORGANISM CAN'T BE DECLARED INTO A MEETING OF CREDITOS (CAN'T GO INTO LIQUIDATION).




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03 May 2010 5:38 PM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

 

Dear all,

Talk about add insult to injury ! it has now been reported in the newspaper " la opinion" that the two owners of Grupo Trampolin (Antonio Martinez and Rafeal Aguillera) that were put in the prison in murcia have now agreed to pay a finance of 3 million Euros to get out of prison by handing over their properties and goods that they had transfered to and put in the name of their family members totalling 3 million euros. After speaking to a lawyer about this we have been told by him that this 3 million euros will not be allocated to anyone on the list of crediters (namely us who have been affected) as it will be allocated for the government / judges. It was even insinuated that most of it would go in the judges pocket although I dont know how true that its.... but up till now I could believe anything !

Sollel




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04 May 2010 10:15 AM by Andrew Wilford Star rating. 189 forum posts Send private message

 Well I am glad I can at least keep some of you amused! One has to laugh at this serious situation or resort to tears! Anyway ... I guess the properties they have handed over are their own homes for starters ... all of which have NOT been paid for. The bottom line is that having not been paid for they are the property of Trampolin Solera and NOT its Directors. Solera is an entity in its own right and quite simply the properties will have to be returned back to the Administrators and the two thieves sent back to Prison!!!!!!!!!!! Kind regards to all "My Viewers"




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08 May 2010 5:53 PM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

 

Dear all please see message posted on spanish forum " afectados-grupo trampolin" regarding making a complaint about the irregularities with the administration handling the goods of trampolin as there seems to be something fishy going on..see below for instructions given on the spanish forum.

 

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This is a claim to the CGPJ, bony, General Advice of the Judicial Power, with a view to the action in the contest that we bring in hands.
We all know that a today there are taking place many irregularities that just sink us more in the misery.
Well then, we are going to see if we can do that those who sink us, also get splashed a bit.
To remember that it is a claim and therefore he you does not compromise anything and neither it costs money…
To remember that it is not the same thing that protests one, to which people make it great, this way which to dedicate a few minutes if in some kind of apreciais your money that they stole from you…
Regards…

nº1
To get into this page
Http: // www.poderjudicial.es/eversuite/GetRecords? Template=cgpj/cgpj/principal.htm
Later to puncture in  Atencion ciudadana that is an eyelash that this one arrives, the third one beginning for left.

nº 2
You go to the right and puncture him in formulario online

nº 3
This is a form to refill each one

You have to know a thing, in the option of “Órgano al que se refiere su queja “ it is necessary to put: juzgado de lo mercantil nº2 de Murcia

Where he says He Es Ustedparticular puts
Where it puts Expongo : to copy this and to put it there:

"Dentro del concurso de acreedores 20/09, no entiendo como particular ni tampoco otros afectados la actuacion de los administradores concursales nombrados por el juzgado que lleva el concurso.No entendemos como vehiculos puestos en el informe como activos no localizados, se han vendido a precios ridiculos como si fueran chatarra, cuando estabamos en periodo de alegaciones. No entendemos como esos activos no localizados estaban en los terrenos que tiene la empresa en Campos del Rio, donde hasta las televisiones y periodicos han ido muchisimas veces a filmar reportajes. No entendemos como se esta permitiendo que las oficinas y demas inmuebles de la empresa se esten robando y destrozando y los administradores no hagan nada al respecto. No entendemos como hace aprox una semana pedimos una cita con el Juez del concurso y a dia de hoy no nos han respondido.Y por ultimo para abreviar, tampoco entendemos como se permite una tasacion del terreno de la empresa tan sobrevalorada y se acepta cualquier contrato de la empresa concursada, Trampolin, como deuda. Cuando hay indicios de ventas duplicadas de viviendas, solares… de casas regalo…

Gracias y espero que Ustedes puedan aclararnos estas dudas o sino, hacer un toque de atencion para que esto que sucede termine"

nº 4

Then revise everything and to press send

A confirmation of sending has to appear.

Now to waiting

Foro de Afectados por el Grupo Trampolín

 

 




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09 May 2010 2:04 AM by tony9999 Star rating. 17 forum posts Send private message

 

well i think Antonio and Rafael will sit it out, and do the 16 years if that!! then will take the money and run!!

Have the properties been searched which they both own, not just the ones they live in, but like Antonio's palace with the lions at the front of his house, they have salted the money away and its probabley not far away, hope the money is found so they have nothing, and think they deserve life!!! for screwing up everyones dreams of living a happy life in spain.




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09 May 2010 7:52 AM by Andrew Wilford Star rating. 189 forum posts Send private message

Hi Tony ... to start with it it may be helpful to copy the post I have just placed on the El Trampolin site:-

Hi ... there is I believe some missunderstanding as to exactly what has been put up for security with varying "stories" being told. I am advised by my Lawyers that NO Solera properties have been put up as security but only properties owned by third parties. Clearly the "Three Stooges" feel that their own properties (in the names of Girlfriends / wives / mistress' ect are theirs whereas in reality they are not ... they belong to Solera since they have never been paid for ... as such the Courts will be looking at these for sure! My understanding is that the properties are all in the names of family members (OK ... purchased with the stolen money) and are in the area generally. When and ONLY WHEN can there "origins" be verified will they be accepted.

I believe that a group are preparing to put Solera into liquidation headed by the following individual and Legal team in Barcelona ... Alberto SalaBufete Sala Reixachs, Vía Augusta 48-54, 08006 Barcelona 639 55 19 53 ... they appear to have a significant action in place which I have been asked to join. This firm are going to be looking very carefully into each and every aspect of the company and I guess means that the likes of Wild and Cummins need to be VERY wary! Assets have been moved around quite recently between the various parties in an attempt to hide their origins. I have been requested by these Lawyers to assist them but given that I already have Lawyers in place this is unlikely but if you have a vested interest you could do worse than give Alberto a call.

My own case is now against Rafael PERSONALLY where he is now being asked to put €200,000 into Court or Double in the event of Property being tendered as with the Hills scenario. They are looking at 16 years for the Hills fraud with Rafael an additional 6 for the one against me ... 22 years ... that is a long time and after that he will STILL OWE THE MONEY. I just think the "sweet smell of freedom" may just make them both think!. Kind regards  Andrew

In part this may answer your question ... however I was interviewed at some length by the Gard Civil a couple of weeks ago and I can assure you they are well aware of the whole story together with their known associates. My final paragraph above indicating the expected Prison terms makes me doubt your theory ... particularly with Rafael who is facing a seriously long time behind bars. Remember too that both the Hills amount and mine are ONLY BAIL BONDS. The Courts KNOW they have hidden the money just as we all do and so will not want to let them off the hook!

This brings me to Sollel's post and "something fishy going on" (deliberate PUN!!!!!!!) I cannot seem to open your link or indeed understand what the issue is. Could you please explain in a little more detail. Thanks ... Kind regards Andrew Wilford




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10 May 2010 12:14 AM by sollel Star rating. 36 forum posts Send private message

 

 

Dear Andrew

yes there is a problem with the link but as it came of the spanish forum I will have to wait for them to repost a new one. The issue that those on the spanish forum are very angry as it seems to have been found that the administration have not reported all the trampolin goods that could have been collected and sold. The goods that have been reported and sold have been sold for a reported "pitance" after some investigation which they should have sold for a much higer value. Those goods reported by the administrator as "not being found" where actually fotographed so there is substantial evidence of these goods so why were they not put on the administrators list and efeectivly have been made to " disappear". The goods that have been fotographed and that could have been sold for a correct price would add to a better pay off  for the afectees. This was posted on the Spanish forum and backed up by their lawyer other than that I personally dont know..just what has been told on the forum. As you can appreciate they are trying their best to highlight these irregularities for the good of all and I for one am very grateful for their efforts

PLEASE BE AWARE THIS POST COMES FROM THE SPANISH FORUM AND NOT ME THE POSTER (SOLLEL)

Below is another Spanish forum post taken directly from their own english translation :

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Hello companions:

 Apart from being ordering complaints to the CGPJ, mass media and the denunciation the EU, now we touch little mas.
 The idea is asks the EU that him of a warning the Spanish politicians in order that they act at once, and if they do not do it, that at least is known in Europe and in Spain.
 Regards.
 That to do:
 
 
 It is necessary to refill the fields to there be identified                  image UE2
 In matter it is necessary to put the following thing:  TRANSMITS COMPLAINT OF SPANISH POLITICIANS TO THE EU       image UE3
 In request the following text puts        image UE4
 
I take advantage that Spain, this one presidency of the EU, to ask them for the favor of which they put in writing to the political class of my country, for the shameful treatment that they give to its citizens, which they are owed by the obligation to work for them.
 I am an affected of one their real estate defrauds that concerns almost 2000 families of the whole Europe, more than 50 million euros of swindle, and that has taken place in the Region of Murcia, which  its president, Sr Valcarcel,one of vice-president of European regions, Today, THE WHOLE POLITICAL CLASS, of Spain, has left us in the hands of a few attorneys  unjustly without worrying for us or at least to assure us that whatever happens, they will take charge of the situation.
IT IS SHAMEFUL, HUMILIATING, OUTRAGEOUS, that a few masters counselors of the government of the Region of Murcia the day 04/05/2010 have been going to Brussels to sell the image of Murcia as interesting destination to buy housings, when a today they have left us like.......... thousands of families, without home, money, health, illusion....
The Spanish Constitution of 1978 gathers in his art 47 the right to have a worthy housing  and many more articles today, are not fulfilled and leads to misfortune for the citizens.  I hope that at least You could do something.
If You ignore us, already there will be no hope.
Thank you and a greeting
 
To complete to put the code of check for that he asks you and to puncture in sending     image UE5
Once done everything you must see this    image UE6
 
After all that you receive a mail confirming to you the sending and they say to you that shortly they answer you
This way that already you know, when the whole affected world orders a mail..
Regards

 




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Some useful info - 19 posts
FOLLOWING RECEIVED FROM TH - 26 posts
Legal Action - 2 posts
Visit - 11 posts
deposits - 0 posts
Are we still trying to get our money Back - 19 posts
8.5 % reduction - 18 posts
TRAMPOLIN HILLS CAMPO DEL RIO - 1 posts
DEFINATE LICENSE - 22 posts
WHATS HAPPENING AT 5.30? - 11 posts
A "site" for ALL clients of Trampolin ... El Trampolin, TH and Royal Dreams - 6 posts
PLENERY SESSION FOR TRAMPOLIN HILLS THIS WEEK - 0 posts
latest info 14 January - 57 posts
LATEST INFORMATION - 9 posts
Antonio had put up new news on GT website - 2 posts
new document on trampolin website - 1 posts
End of our hopes and dreams? - 0 posts
GT: Please propose a new solution for the TH project - 14 posts
what's going on - 1 posts
What a shambles - 4 posts
join the MAG --MURCIA ACTION GROUP------- - 18 posts

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