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19 Jul 2009 00:00 by Ted H Star rating in Purley and jardin 13.... 458 posts Send private message

I don't seem to be able to add to my previous thread, so am giving an update here.  Thanks to all who provided feedback, especially Myra for the website details, I paid online, and received a discount for paying within 30 days.  Couple of things for anyone else using the site, my NIE starts with a X, but that is left out, as is the - between the nukbers and the final letter.  Also, the reference number on my fine had various commas and dashes, and these are all left out. 

Thanks also to Morerosado for your humour, maybe i will learn from this and think of that sign next time I am about to put my foot down, but then again ..................

Ted





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19 Jul 2009 21:06 by morerosado Star rating in Guardamar del Segura.... 7698 posts Send private message

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Other thread was Speeding fine on A-7 towards Alicante Anyone else having trouble posting in there ?

Myra had said in there that someone had problems paying through the site she gave details of.

However, Ted, glad you managed to pay & thanks for seeing my SOH. I wonder if the reason someone else couldn't pay was because of the 'X' factor ?

(Get it ? The 'X' factor ? )


 



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19 Jul 2009 21:22 by myra cecilia Star rating in Manilva Malaga. 228 posts Send private message

Well done Ted for perserverance. And the humour. From you to miss superstar. Hey pleas look at the latest blog whilst we are on the subject on "How to drive in Spain" I laughed through the whole blog. I thought they would come and take me away for exccesive ha ha ha's Please read it.



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19 Jul 2009 21:22 by Ted H Star rating in Purley and jardin 13.... 458 posts Send private message

Oh dear Morerodado, and you were doing so well up until then!!





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19 Jul 2009 21:27 by myra cecilia Star rating in Manilva Malaga. 228 posts Send private message

What have we done?



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19 Jul 2009 21:33 by Ted H Star rating in Purley and jardin 13.... 458 posts Send private message

I was meaning the "X-factor" joke!! Truely awful! 





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19 Jul 2009 22:33 by morerosado Star rating in Guardamar del Segura.... 7698 posts Send private message

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20 Jul 2009 09:30 by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 8127 posts Send private message

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 SPEED LIMIT
 
30
40
50
60
70
80
90
100
110
120
FINE
Till
40
50
60
70
80
90
100
110
121
132
No fine

From/Till

41
50

51
70

61
80

71
90

81
100

91
110
101
120
111
130
122
141
133
152
100 euros
From/Till
61
70
71
80
81
90
91
100
101
110
111
120
121
130
131
140
142
151
153
162
140 euros and
-2 points
From/Till
- - -
101
105
111
120
121
130
131
140
141
150
152
161
163
172
200 euros and
-
3 points
From/Till
- - - - -
131
135
141
150
151
165
162
181
173
198
300 euros and
-4 points
From/Till
71
77
81
87
91
97
106
112
121
128
136
143
151
158
166
174
182
190
199
208
380 euros and
-6 points
From/Till
78
84
88
94
98
104
113
119
129
136
144
151
159
166
175
183
191
199
209
218
450 euros and
-6 points
From...
85
95
105
120
137
152
167
184
200
219
520 euros and
-
6 points

IMPORTANT NOTICE:  A different scale is applied in Pais Vasco and Cataluña.


Fines can be reduced to a 30% less if it is inmediately paid.

Vehicles of more than +3500 kg or more than 9 passengers have an increased fine of 10%-30% more.

 



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20 Jul 2009 13:37 by morerosado Star rating in Guardamar del Segura.... 7698 posts Send private message

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I posted in the other thread too on this, Maria   .Speeding fine on A-7 towards Alicante
 

20 Jul 2009 13:08

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SPEED LIMIT
 
30
40
50
60
70
80
90
100
110
120
FINE
Till
40
50
60
70
80
90
100
110
121
132
??? No fine???

From/Till

41
50

51
70

61
80

71
90

81
100

91
110
101
120
111
130
122
141
133
152
100 euros they were fined !!

This may well be law, Maria, BUT police in our area (Valencian area) are certainly fining drivers well within these above. Our resident friends were fined around 70€ recently ( he paid on the spot so it would've been 100€ ) for doing 75 in a 70 area. Your tabulation shows he should've been doing between 81 & 100 to be fined that.

I've seen posts by others local to us who have been fined for doing 45 in a 40 area near us where there are constant roadworks due to the main N332 being changed from single lane to a dual carriageway. So, where's the justice ? How can this happen ?



 



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20 Jul 2009 16:38 by minerva_uk Star rating. 11 posts Send private message

 

 

Glad to find this forum !!! Seems very helpful.

Anyway, I have received a 100 Euro speeding fine letter from Ministry Del Interior for speeding. Yes I know it is genuine and I was speeding. Now I have been trying to pay the fine using DGT dot ES but a bit confused about the procedure.

1.What is NIF NIE or CIF ?

2. what is N. Expedinte at the top of the bar code on right hand side? is it the document number or record number?

3. If the above number is docu number then where is the record number?

Oh I am so confused !

Would appreciate any help !

Thanks

 

 





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20 Jul 2009 17:26 by Ted H Star rating in Purley and jardin 13.... 458 posts Send private message

Hi Minerva - so was I!!

An NIE is a sort of national Insurance No - I believe for non-Residents - which you would get if you were purchasing a property.  I don't know re the other two - or what you do if you do not have an NIE I am afraid.  The document number would be your NIE number, or other document if using one of the 2 alternative options.

The N. Expedinte is the record number - enter it without any of the commas, dots or dashes.

Hope that helps

Ted





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20 Jul 2009 18:50 by minerva_uk Star rating. 11 posts Send private message

 

 

Hi Ted,

Thanks for your prompt reply. I don't have any NIE. I am just a tourist who went there for a week. I am more than happy to sort out this matter by paying the fine.

It says on the letter that , I can pay using internet but it doesn't say how to pay without NIE or NIF etc.

Is there any expert in this forum can clarify this ?

Thanks





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20 Jul 2009 20:21 by myra cecilia Star rating in Manilva Malaga. 228 posts Send private message

Ted H.

NIE is numero identificacion extranjero for non spanish instead of their NIF numero identificacion fiscal. Both refer to your Fiscal number and not insurance. Yes if you are a resident or non resident you need this number to carry out any transacrtion here.

Minerva. If you cannot pay on the web let me know. I must say the authorities are really really lucky that you are all paying your fines. would not be the case the other way round. I personally do not like this chasing people in the UK. First fines, then no doublt the unfortunate ones that have been caught out with the crisis and low sterling and having to hand keys back. I am afraid you are setting a precedent for this non to helpful goverment and system. Well thats my view and I am sticking to it.



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20 Jul 2009 21:07 by Ted H Star rating in Purley and jardin 13.... 458 posts Send private message

Thanks Myra,

I do agree with, and did seriously think about non-payment, but as I am hoping to get to Spain as much as posible, I am just worried about what might happen if I am stopped by the police, and they chek my licence and find outstanding fines ??? Maybe nothing, but if I am over with my Son I don't want to risk being dragged off to the police station etc.

Ted





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20 Jul 2009 21:15 by myra cecilia Star rating in Manilva Malaga. 228 posts Send private message

TED H. I have to be careful. I did not actually say dont pay.



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21 Jul 2009 06:51 by minerva_uk Star rating. 11 posts Send private message

 

Myra,

Thanks for your response. It seems only people with CIF/CIE are able to pay using the web. Also the payment page seems down a lot.

If I am unable (which is highly likely) to pay using the web, what other options I have?

Thanks

 





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21 Jul 2009 09:28 by semijubilada Star rating in London/Torrevieja. 1073 posts Send private message

This is a really good thread and could prove useful to any non-resident home owner who is caught out with the new speeding fine restriction.

Myra - The NIE and NIF numbers are the same as the National Insurance number in the UK.  It's a misleading title to anyone not resident in UK.  National Insurance is the same as Automino? in Spain.  It would make more sense to call it National Identification number as you quote this number on tax returns as well.

 





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21 Jul 2009 12:37 by minerva_uk Star rating. 11 posts Send private message

 

 

Just talk to my car hire company. They do not pay the fine on behalf of the driver. So I have to deal with the authority directly. The car hire people kept saying that there should be bank details on the letter. but I don't see any bank details on the letter at all!

It is giving me a real headache now! grrrrr....!!





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21 Jul 2009 12:42 by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 8127 posts Send private message

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More, with that chart on hand and if the vehicle is not speeding over the limits, I would just say: do not sign the fine, once it is notified to your home address ( if they can), you could then oppose it accordingly.

Best regards,

Maria



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21 Jul 2009 12:48 by myra cecilia Star rating in Manilva Malaga. 228 posts Send private message

Semijubilada.

Hope this does not make things more complex. National insurance number is long number starting with ss (seguridad social)

Autonomo (self employed) So you would have a ss number. If you are non resident NIE only to carry out transactions. Your fiscal ID.

Residencia also has a NIE number. If you are going to live here go straight for residencia and you will get your NIE. So one transaction for the two things and you only pay out once. Non residents. Be careful, many go for the NIE and end up taking residency. This will alter your tax situation, medical treatment and so on.


 



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