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Wednesday, February 07, 2007

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Hi everyone,

Is there any way of giving my lawyer a swift kick up the arse?

Completed with lots of outstanding problems on the 11th August 2006. Person dealing with our 'file' left said lawyers late October, since then am getting nowhere.

Last email sent to lawyers and ignored 2nd February 2007, last telephone message to lawyers, fobed off and ignored same date. Last email received from lawyers fobing me off 17th November 2006.

Surely lawyers in Spain can be smacked on the wrist by someone? Maybe I need to employ another lawyer to take over the file and sue the arse of these lawyers for there incompetence?

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07 Feb 2007 1:17 PM

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Not much Im afraid - if you go to another lawyer you will have to pay them as well. Unfortunately they get their money and run. Which company is it as I may know them and could offer some help.
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07 Feb 2007 4:17 PM

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You could contact the Colegio de Abagodos that your lawyer is registered with - but they probably will not reply. They are supposed to be the equivalent of the Law Society in the UK.


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07 Feb 2007 5:18 PM

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Rixxy, thanks! Have PM'd you details of Lawyers

Gail, Not a bad idea!

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07 Feb 2007 6:50 PM

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Update!

Telephoned the Lawyers again today, got fobbed off for 30 mins, rang again, may get an email from them telling me who is dealing with my file!?!?!?!?

I just want to fricking now 'who is dealing with my file?'

B@LL@CKS - It's word slurring time - where's me beer!!


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08 Feb 2007 8:16 PM

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Have got to the point that I'm going to fly out to Spain, walk into my Lawyers offices and demand all paperwork (my file) be handed over to me, and at the same time demand the fee that I paid them to complete the transaction be paid back to me.
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12 Apr 2007 5:38 PM

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hi tECHNOAPE:

jUST ONE SUGGESTION... INSTEAD SPEND THE DAY IN THE CHAT, WHY YOU DO NOT SEND ANOTHER E-MAIL TO YOUR LAWYER AND EXPLAIN YOU ARE UNHAPPY WITH HIM?




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12 Apr 2007 6:20 PM

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You could also try asking for a complaint form - Hoja de Reclamacion. By law all businesses must have these available. Many lawyers and developers will try and tell you that they do not need to keep these forms - it's not true. In fact you can report them for refusing to issue a form.

The form is in three parts and must be completed in the office of the business you are reporting - it can be completed in English. You will need to have either your NIE number or Passport number.

There is a section for the business to make a reply.

They keep one part of the form, you keep one and you send the third to the local OMIC, Oficina de Municipal al Consumidor which is in the local Town Hall.




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12 Apr 2007 7:56 PM

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TECHAPE: Have you paid them all of the fees... or only 0,5%? If you still owe them money then u can change lawyers... & see whether the new ones will charge you only 0.5%. ...humm.. only an idea..  This will annoy your old lawyers. You can also make a complaint to El colegio de abogados... Anyway off to see the football.. getting interesting!   XX


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13 Apr 2007 11:46 AM

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I guess you fear the "better the devil you know than the devil you don't" syndrome that exists with certain lawyers here.

I had a client with a wholly justifiable dispute with a Madrid lawyer and the local Collegio were not interested. Malaga may be the same. They are simply not set up as the English Law Society who have a regulatory role over Solicitors -for the publics benefit - as well as being their "Trade Union."

Changing lawyers is entirely possible but in my experience arse kicking is best done face to face .....if you see what I mean.

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13 Apr 2007 1:36 PM

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The problem with arse kicking face to face ( don't get me wrong, I believe it 's brilliant) is that you will see an initial response but experiece tells me that problem will probably continue... And do you want to have a lawyer in Spain who is completely useless?

 There are many proffessional lawyers around who are willing to give a good service & provide you with refferences of their clients. My advice is that if you are not getting a good service, you must definately change. Or at least I wouldn't put up with it...If you happen to put a denuncia to the Colegio de abogados make sure you change lawyers beforehand!

Anyway good luck.!


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Putting a denuncia forward to the Collegio de Abogados, certainly in Marbella ,is a complete waste of time! Ours was put forward by our new lawyer.. The Collegio summoned the offending lawyer to a meeting with our lawyer at their (CdA)offices but he didn't bother to respond..or turn up for the meeting. (I can visualise shrugging of shoulders and hand jestures at this stage!!!)..but our lawyer has not given up. We have a kind of"arbitration" hearing that will be heard before a judge next month. We are not holding our breath on this one though!.


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13 Apr 2007 7:29 PM

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Anyone who has read my articles about a year in the life of the president will remember that we were having some problems with one owner. Always very late paying her quota, and her apartment is rented to a filthy tennant who has brought an infestation of cockroaches to the building, affecting the immediate neighbours who have had to pay for fumigation of their apartments. She rarely answers any of our calls or letters, and when she does, she says she is not interested in the problems caused by her tennant since they are "good payers". She told us if we want to denounce her tennant, feel free, but she refuses to divulge the name of said tennant, so it's difficult for us to take any action. And she's late again with her community dues, and no amount of letters or phone calls make a blind bit of difference.

Reason I'm posting this here?

She's a bloody lawyer.


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27 Apr 2007 11:51 AM

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I changed lawyers, but the first lawyer who was useless, will not give up the paperwork until I pay 1/2%  plus costs. Any ideas?


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27 Apr 2007 6:03 PM

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What paperwork are you missing? Maybe you can get duplicates of whatever you need from another source? If you can be a little more specific, someone may have some suggestions.
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Crikey Roberto!

A Lawyer, owner, with tennant, not playing ball, don't think you are in a "win win" situation there mate!

Good luck to you as Presidente and to your committee..................


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05 May 2007 1:33 PM

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Quote from our Spanish lawyer: "We just wait for the last licence and then we know all the others must be in place."

What is he being paid to to if not check that the licences that should be in place are already there?

I think he needs a bit of 'encouragement'!

 





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