What was not so long ago a perfectly great option for flying, even though they do drive you mad, from time to time, is now quite a scary one. With several emergency landings due to lack of fuel, a protest by various pilots who refused to fly due to security issues and there has even been a flight where their own passengers had their blood sucked by a plague of bedbugs. Due to this, the Spanish government is making serious steps to modify the European Union rules for national supervising bodies so they can have more control over airlines that function in their territory.

What is this all about? A bout of bad luck? Or are they really dropping their standards and pushing things to the limit?

 Very strange indeed, and kind of worrying.

However I refuse to believe that Ryanair would disrespect saferules. At least more than the other airlines. I have always found them better organized and structured than Iberia, Spanair, etc.

In fact I am a true Ryanair fan because they do their job cheap. I even wrote an article about them on my blog (Globexs Valencia Blog)

I just hope I can continue using them monthly on my trips between Valencia and Belgium...

Cheers!

Lodewijk

I don't see how they could drop their standards.

Given the point they start from.

 Well it seems to me that they are cutting corners! How can you run out of fuel on two flights in one month and even have to do an emegency landing if you're not calculating the litres to the absolute minimum? Ryan air pilots don't have enough fuel to be able to react to adverse conditions. They have to get from A to B without any hicups or think really fast!

Maybe they are infringing the law, after all if any one could they could. But some how I don't think they are, I just think they're on the line between legal and illegal and that policy is very worrying.

Two days ago, yet another emergency landing in Madrid by a flight from Paris to Tenerife to add to the list . Technical problems.

I certainly won't be flying Ryan Air, I think they have gone just too low cost!

 

Is there no authorised "body" to oversee these incidents with the power to ground an airline company and ensure passenger safety is not compromised? Surely there are safety procedures and checks that are compulsory for all airlines to adhere to, i.e. a minimum fuel contingency requirement, etc?

Ryanair is no longer a cheap airline. There's very little in price between them and the others. Because of its nasty mean minded tactics, I have changed to Monarch, who are a lot more pleasant to deal with.

Yes have to say we have been looking at flights to Alicante and Monarch came out the cheapest and more sociable flying times!!!!!!

Patricia

 I have booked my mate & I on a flight in October for Malaga from Birmingham with Ryanaire for £169.80 (£84.90 each).

My friend has yesterday booked with Monarch from Birmingham to Alicante for £142.80

So I still think Ryanaire is comparitively cheap, rough & ready but cheap,

Can't say I particularly like 'em but all I want is to get from here to their, not bothered abour frills. Until they let me down or no longer cheap I will use them. They must hate me as I never fall for their dirty tactics.

I am afraid Ryan air do not fly to Alicante from Luton so it is not a option for us.  But would certainly use them if they were cheaper at the end of the day it is not a long flight. You could spend that time on a train journey!

Patricia

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205314/Ryanair-courting-disaster-flying-planes-near-fuel-tanks-cut-costs.html

 Scandal & concerns sell papers.

Ryanaire have never crashed a plane yet & they won't flout the minimum guidelines.

Anyway I'm squashing myself into the black box!!

 The fuel I suppose is done exactly like car hire fuel, that that is unused you lose.

Aicraft are also faster & more efficient the lighter the load. 

It looks like their staff have found a novel way to subsidies their wages.

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Ryanair cabin crew escape jail for smuggling

Two former Ryanair stewards have escaped jail after trying to smuggle nearly 14,000 duty free cigarettes between them into Britain.


Gemma Phillips and Adam McEvatt walked free from Manchester Magistrates Court today but both have already resigned from their jobs because of the nature of the crime and are facing disciplinary proceedings.


Phillips was caught at Liverpool John Lennon airport on 20 August after a flight from the Canary Islands. She had tried to sneak 7,800 Canary Kingsize cigarettes in her luggage. McEvatt was caught minutes later with 6,000 cigarettes.


Both, who were not on duty at the time, admitted evading tax duty.


Sentencing, District Judge Jonathan Taaffe told the pair: "I am prepared to accept this was an isolated act. On your part it was an attempt to nearly raise funds on your own behalf. Nevertheless it is a serious matter, it is not a victimless crime, people who avoid revenue payment make the rest of us suffer.'


Laws introduced last year restrict holidaymakers returning from most EU countries to 800 cigarettes and 1kg of rolling tobacco duty free, but the Canaries, although part of the EU, has separate fiscal laws and as such the duty free allowance for pasengers returing from the islands is 200 cigarettes and 250g of tobacco.

 

 

   this happens all the time what's it got to do with

            What is going on with Ryanair in Spain

Well........... For sure it is in relation to "Ryan air". Weather these crew members were on any flights to "Spain", or not, could relate to  the last part of the heading.

 

In any case, who are you to question another person's post ?

 

I don't see anything constructive, from you, on this subject !

 

 would it make this site if the crew worked for easy jet, jet 2 or monarch !!1

 This is all very worrying, it makes you wonder if you can trust any airline, because if Ryanair has to do it and it is the largest airline in Europe, what are the others doing, getting lucky?

The Secretary General of Transport, Carmen Librero, travelled to Dublin today to maintain a ‘meeting of collaboration’ with her counterparts and to analyse the recent security incidents with Ryanair, and to strengthen cooperation. So the Spanish Government is taking it all very seriously.

Only last weekend saw a family pushing a car along the road to a petrol station - word "idoits" immediately sprung to mind, ashamedly I too have been an idiot and learned my lesson - just hope RyanAir do the same.

 

I'm plumping for a bout of bad luck. I am sure they are, and always have, operated at the bare minimum of any regulations.

Smuggling. Nothing new. I knew a man who used to smuggle gold bars in, back in the days of BOAC.

Somehow, it seems to me that it's slightly more worrying when a plane runs out of fuel, rather than a car.

You can't compare prices across different routes.

I will only use them if they are substantially cheaper and their flight timings suit me.

Right now, I'm more worried about turning up at Alicante next week for my Monarch flight, and finding it's a Lithuanian plane...