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18 Dec 2010 11:32 PM by SMV Star rating in I'm in Dublin/Jardin.... 722 forum posts Send private message

Does our community come under Alhama City Council? 

I know there's always talk about what the Council (might not be the city council) should be responsible for and what the community should be responsible for.

 




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19 Dec 2010 9:46 AM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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 Yes, we are under Alhama de Murcia.

 

 



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19 Dec 2010 11:15 AM by petercbeck Star rating in Reigate via Wales & .... 65 forum posts Send private message

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Has anybody invested in the Discount Card being offered by Eye on Spain?

If so, have they managed to use it successfully at a golf course yet?

PB

 



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19 Dec 2010 6:11 PM by munster Star rating. 57 forum posts Send private message

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Hi Phil,

Best of luck with the meeting Tuesday. It will be interesting to see what Alfredo comes up with as regards green fees etc. Heard that when club house opens, green fees are going by 30%, which is a good trick in present day climate. I have spoken to quiet a few people over the year and whereas the annual sub is ok, the 7 euro every time you play is too much. It would be still nice to get a survey of peoples thoughts as I am sure there are a lot of golfers out their who have been involved in running golf clubs in G.B. and Ireland. Maybe then we could give Ola golf a good idea of what Condado residants feel is a good deal. Anyway well done to Graham, Barry for getting the society off the ground,                                                                

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21 Dec 2010 3:56 PM by barney111 Star rating. 1133 forum posts Send private message

Hi all

We have had the meeting with Olagolf the result of which I will post later at www.cdagolf.wordpress.com

Main outcome was the location (and design) of the clubhouse has changed again..

Expecting a few golfers over for new year so if you want to play on new years eve with the society at a cost of 40 euros including buggy please contact me at barrybarker90@yahoo.co.uk

Merry Xmas

Barry



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21 Dec 2010 8:20 PM by barney111 Star rating. 1133 forum posts Send private message

Report of meeting between society and Olagolf now on www.cdagolf.wordpress.com

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21 Dec 2010 8:34 PM by Daniels Star rating in Waterlooville & Pent.... 220 forum posts Send private message

Barry - I must be stupid as I can't find your report on meeting with Olagolf. Can you help me find it, under what heading?

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21 Dec 2010 9:02 PM by SMV Star rating in I'm in Dublin/Jardin.... 722 forum posts Send private message

It was there before under the notices tab but it seems to have disappeared.  I still had it open so this is it copied (I'm sure whatever glitch will be remedied soon):

Myself, Graham and Phil Tann met today with Alfredo Caparros of Olagolf. The topics discussed were:

a) the progress of the society over the last year and our contribution to Olagolf

b) Clubhouse plans

c) Membership pricing

d) Green fees

e) Information process

f) Condition of the course

We pointed out that we have had a competition every friday (and some mondays) since January 28th this year. We have been loyal to Olagolf and and not searched around for the cheapest prices and varied our venue as many other societies do.

We started off with only 12 players in January, but numbers have increased exponentially since then with a peak of 59 players taking part in October.

The golf website has also grown and the number of views (by month) of the site have increased steadily from 652 in March to 3278 in November. A total of 19392 viewings have been recorded so far in 9 months.

The Viking cup between Norway and the UK was a highlight of the year and will be an annual event.

Captains day was a great success with 55 players and a hog roast to follow. A great night organised in Grahams’ garden at the last minute as the Clover was booked. Having our own clubhouse next year would be even better though.

Plans are in hand to have an open competition next year for societies etc from all over Murcia at a date close to the Open in July. Paul Harrington has offered to give a trophy similar to the claret jug and other prizes also.

Jill and Terry also wish to have a golf competition at easter for residents based on a family day, with easter egg hunts etc.

We think that the numbers of golfers next year will increase as more properties are being sold on Condado.

Interesting developments with the clubhouse. It looks like the plans to site it on the land between the 1st tee and the range have been changed in the last few days. It now seems that it will be in between the buggy shed and chipping green (which is by the entrance to the practice area and 1st tee). It will not be as big as the initial planned clubhouse. The reason for this is that it looks like the banks may purchase the land looking over the 9th and 18th from polaris.

The original location would require a massive investment to install a road and car parking aroung the polaris land. If the banks do acquire that land then they will build a permanent clubhouse with hotel accomodation and then the outlay on temporary facilities will have been wasted. So it’s a matter of watch this space!

So the temporary clubhouse will have less facilities than promised but will have a bar, food and other basic needs, and hopefully will be erected by the end of February.

We did question the new annual membership prices offered. It has not changed and is still 1200 euros (individual) and 1600 euros (family) but this was the price to non residents also. After checking Alfredo confirmed that there was a 10% discount for residents. We did ask for the 7 euro charge to be removed but no chance!

The 3 courses operated by Olagolf offer a great membership offer – 1500 euros individual and 2000 euros family.

Green fees have been reduced in the past for non members due to the poor condition of the course after hollow tining. Members did not benefit from this but Alfredo has agreed to charge the 9 hole rate (4.5 euros) at such times.

We did bring up the fact that other local courses did offer cheaper golf deals. However it was pointed out that these courses are not in good condition – one well known course on the coast has only 6 greenkeepers whilst we have 21.

The rumour about half price golf for residents of the town of Alhama was quashed – the deal was they would get our residents rate.

Due to all the unfounded rumours I asked for Olagolf to produce a monthly newsletter with any information available, which could be posted in the golf shop.. This was agreed to.

We discussed conditions on the course. There are now a few benches on the tees, but extra ones are on order. It was admitted that much work still needs to be done to avoid flooding in extreme circumstances as happened in August. This damage was fortunately covered by insurance. The fact that lake levels were still low was brought up.

We thought it had been a useful meeting with issues brought out in the open and answered as well as possible.

At the end of the meeting we wished Alfredo a merry xmas and happy new year. Hopefully next year will be a great one for the society and Olagolf.

Barry




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21 Dec 2010 11:15 PM by Sonatigh Star rating in Condado de Alhama Re.... 621 forum posts Send private message

Go to site and click December 2010 Archives its in there



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21 Dec 2010 11:40 PM by sarahlou Star rating. 11 forum posts Send private message

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Was very disappointed with the results of the meeting today. Do Olagolf realize how much money the society have made for them this year. All we are doing is making their job easier. 40 euro with buggy is not bad for people who come a few  times a year and play once or twice a week when they are here. What about the people who spend maybe 30/40 weeks and pay 40 euro ever time they play. I know you can join for 1200 euro but if you play 60 times during the year, that 1620 euro. I do not think you would pay that in England and only be able to play that number of times. Thats not good value. I would be interested in other peoples opinions on this.



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22 Dec 2010 10:24 AM by barney111 Star rating. 1133 forum posts Send private message

Hello Sarahlou

Yes we would all like UK prices but this is Spain and that is how it is everywhere. Very few clubs operate under UK rules and most also charge members a fee every time they play.  As Olagolf pointed out when we quoted cheaper prices elsewhere green fees were double current prices only 2 years ago. The high charges of the past will take a long time to recover.

Membership fees for owners are now are less than last year. 1200e individual now has 10% off as is the family rate of 1600e.

A new offer is a 3 course membership of Mar Menor, Saurines de la Torre and Condado de Alhama for 1500e or 2000e respectively also subject to a 10% discount for owners.

So an individual could be a member of 2 additional courses for a matter of 270e which I think is a great deal.

Remember also when comparing with the UK this is a Jack Nicklaus signature designed course which is very rare in Spain. Once we have a permanent clubhouse these prices will increase although we have a promise society rates will not increase.

The only way to bring prices down would be to pay and play elsewhere instead of join, but courses have their overheads.  Condado have 21 greenkeepers, 3 office girls, 3 marshalls and management to pay plus equipment, fertilizer, sand, seed etc. This is to service a massive area of land when 9 hole and shorter courses can charge less as they have less overheads.

I would guess that Olagolf are losing money at the moment as playing numbers are not good enough, but as I have said there is a limit to reducing fees and still remaining viable. 

It may seem I am defending them but I am just being realistic.

Barry



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22 Dec 2010 10:47 AM by SMV Star rating in I'm in Dublin/Jardin.... 722 forum posts Send private message

I would think being a member of a course of this quality and being able to play 60 times a year for a cost of €1,500 is pretty good value.  An average of €25 a round is good.

It maybe that UK prices are a lot lower but prices in Dublin are certainly not.  If I could play on a course as half as good as CDA for that money I'd jump at it.

 




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22 Dec 2010 12:23 PM by CM84 Star rating. 51 forum posts Send private message

Condado has 18 greens staff not 21




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22 Dec 2010 12:56 PM by barney111 Star rating. 1133 forum posts Send private message

Is that Craig?

Just reporting what Alfredo told us but you will know better being one of them!

Barry



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22 Dec 2010 1:22 PM by CM84 Star rating. 51 forum posts Send private message

Yeah Barry its me. I know I was just letting you know that they gave you wrong info




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23 Dec 2010 11:54 AM by Golfdealers Star rating in Midland, UK. 32 forum posts Send private message

Hi all coming out on January 20th so hoping for me and my brother to play in the society day on the 21st, What do we have to do to book on etc? Thanks



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23 Dec 2010 1:03 PM by barney111 Star rating. 1133 forum posts Send private message

Contact me at barrybarker90@yahoo.co.uk  giving names and handicaps. Then I can give you deatails nearer the time.

 

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23 Dec 2010 5:01 PM by davell Star rating in County Durham, Engla.... 144 forum posts Send private message

For anyone planning a trip to Condado to play golf early next year, bear in mind that on Feb 4th the society will be celebrating thier one year anniversary.

We will be playing for the Anniversary Trophy and hopefully we will be trying to organise some form of get together.

Look forward to seeing as many as possible.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.



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25 Dec 2010 9:59 AM by barney111 Star rating. 1133 forum posts Send private message

No golf competition this week but a few items of news posted at www.cdagolf.wordpress.com

 

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27 Dec 2010 11:16 PM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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Results from todays fun "Strings" game now  posted at www.cdagolf.wordpress.com

 

 



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