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30 Jan 2012 9:33 PM:

Hi everyone,

 

Absolutely nothing has happened. It is still on-going in the Courts of Malaga. The spanish legal system is a joke.

 

I paid a lot of money to these crooks in April 2004 and have nothing to show for it. All my life saving have gone.

Many families have joined the case and therefore the Judge has to keep delaying the proceedings for more paperwork to be gathered. In the meantime, Jesus Gotardo (the piece of S**T) still remains in business, still running Palmera Properties. UNBELIEVABLE.

I hope the whole country falls apart.

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26 May 2009 3:55 PM:

This is the latest news from IURA Lawyers in Spain.

 

In Fuengirola, on the 11th of May 2009

 

 

            Dear Clients,

 

            Regarding the Palmera Properties case I can confirm that things are moving along but as I have already mentioned on numerous occasions, unfortunately the pre trial phase seems to be taking forever, we are constantly pushing for things to be resolved asap but at the end of the day it is entirely down to the court and at the moment they are inundated with cases and simply do not have the resources to deal with it all.

 

            Gotardo Rodriguez, the director of Palmera Properties handed over a ton of paperwork regarding all purchases. This is now being reviewed by ourselves and the Court, this is in the theory when we should be able to determine exactly how much funds were kept by Palmera, how much was or was not paid to the developer, agency fees etc. There are still statements to take place, most importantly that of Enrique Faura (the director of Grupo Mirador), he appealed against the original citation as he insists he has absolutely no relation with any of you and that your case is against Palmera as they are the ones you paid the deposits to, although this may be true, there are numerous documents that make it clear to see that they, along with other developers received part of the money.

 

            At this stage it is possible that the Judge may request further information, should we need to present additional information we will obviously let you know immediately. At the moment most people that have presented a case against Palmera in the Torremolinos court are in the same situation, this is due to the fact that the investigation phase of all cases is being dealt with under one file. In the long run the number of affected clients will benefit clients but at the moment it is causing a bit of a delay.

 

            On another note, I understand from many of you that another law firm has been sending e-mails in order for you to join their group of affected clients. Some previous Costa del Sol Action Group committee members who were asked to leave the Group have decided to form another group, and this is why you are now receiving the communications. It is highly unethical for any law firm to contact clients directly when they are aware that those clients are represented by a lawyer/s. We have informed them that if the situation arises again we will take whatever action we feel necessary and appropriate. As a law firm they should be more than willing to contact us in order for everyone to work together, juts as we have done with other lawyers dealing with identical cases.

 

            There are also people posing to be victims of the Palmera scam e-mailing clients informing them that their solicitors are second to none and that if you want to resolve your situation you should get them to act on your behalf, having paid a joining fee of 1.500.-€. Please be aware that under no circumstance are these people buyers, they have simply formed another group and are recruiting clients. For legal reasons at this moment in time we are unable to state who these people are, but I am sure it will all come out in time. Many of you have already sent me these e-mails, but should you receive any further communications please forward to our office so we have a record on file.

 

Should any of you need any further information please do not hesitate to send me an e-mail and I will respond as soon as possible.

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Naomi Webb

IURA DESPACHO JURÍDICO S.L.



Thread: Palmera Properties

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16 Mar 2009 8:23 PM:

There are 400 families involved with a lawsuit against this company. We have all made 'serious enquiries', as you so elegantly put it.

It doesn't make any difference what's in the contract, bank guarantees or otherwise if the director of this company is happy to spend 4 years in jail, only to come out and have most of the 8 million euros he's swindled out of honest UK families.

Thanks for your conerns though.



Thread: Palmera Properties

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16 Mar 2009 3:58 PM:

Their website is up and running again. However, new the News Update on one of my developments Ref 6065 has not changed at all since Aug 2007 and the property details do not exist anymore !!



Thread: Palmera Properties

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17 Nov 2008 10:21 AM:

PALMERA PROPERTIES UPDATE

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Stephen Hodgkiss

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In Fuengirola on the 14th of November 2008

 

 

Dear Clients,

 

Having been at the courts on the 10th & 11th of November, our initial impression is that the Judge will not file our case, which is obviously a good sign, as other Judges have done in almost identical ongoing cases against Palmera Properties.

           

The first person called for questioning was Gotardo, he started to explain what had happened in each development and why they were never built, after a very brief summary, he stated he would make use of his right to remain silent and not declare. We imagined this would be the case, and although we would have loved to question him in depth about every single one of your cases, the fact of the matter is,  his silence only reinforces our case, it clearly shows he has something to hide. Saying this, the Judge did make him answer one question, had he returned any money at all, to which he answered, no. 

           

Then the witness we had proposed was called, he confirmed that certain projects had not been able to go ahead for various reasons, that the amounts they received from clients was not always used as it should have been, and that none of the amounts were guaranteed.

           

We are now waiting for a date for the representatives of Grupo Mirador to be questioned, as their address does not coincide with Palmera Properties, their statements will take place in the court in Velez Málaga, this is just a mere formality as this is where the company address is registered, those statements then get sent back to the Torremolinos Court, who is, at the end of the day, the court that is dealing with the case.

 

The Judge was well aware of the events surrounding the case as she is currently dealing with a number of claims against Palmera, she has decided to unify all procedures into one as the basis of each and every case is exactly the same.

 

The bad new is obviously the fact that there are so many cases being dealt with at the moment, the amounts being claimed are extremely high, we are claiming over three million Euros, another law firm is claiming two million, there are a couple of investors who invested almost three million in one of the projects alone..., the question is, can he come up with the money?, we will have to wait and see but it is unlikely that he will be able to return all amounts.

 

For the moment there is nothing further to report, we will keep you all updated as and when we receive notifications regarding the trial. As I mentioned in the previous update, we are entirely in the hands of the court and things will not happened over night, some time may elapse before there are any concrete advances, but as always we will do everything in our power to push the matter for a quick resolve.

 

Kind regards,

 

Naomi Webb

IURA DESPACHO JURIDICO 



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