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21 Mar 2009 8:12 AM:

The triumph of hope over experience.



Forum thread: How to give your Spanish Lawyer a kick up the @

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19 Mar 2009 4:03 PM:

Many years ago the Sur in English reported a most interesting case involving a Spanish lawyer. A Brit was buying a property here and he asked his English solicitor for help. Quite rightly the English solicitor said it was outside his field but he would help as best he could. The solicitor did what was and probably still is the normal practice of getting from the seller's lawyer an undertaking from that lawyer to clear any financial charges against the property that might be revealed after completion and not yet registered. This was duly done.

You know what's coming. Yes, three months later a jumbo monetary charge appeared against the property. The buyer consulted his UK solicitor who wrote to the Spanish lawyer asking him to honour his undertaking. Tough life, innit, said the Spanish lawyer, so the solicitor complained to the Malaga Colegio of Abogados.

You guessed it. Tough life, innit, they said.

 



Forum thread: How to give your Spanish Lawyer a kick up the @

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07 Feb 2008 12:52 PM:

 

Naomi Webb of IURA Despacho Juridico commented on a report from a member that Grupo Urbassa was going into liquidation or bankruptcy:

 

‘Palmera Properties can only be held accountable for the amounts they retained. If the promoters are declared bankrupt and are unable to return the funds they received from buyers they will have to pay in other ways such as serving prison sentences. There is no better incentive to come up with the money or other assets to settle the claims.

 

As we have mentioned on a number of occasions we all need to be very patient, this is a case with over 40 people or couples and in order to obtain the right result when this does go to trial we need to go over every document with a fine comb, we want nothing to escape us, the last thing we need is for them to get off on a technicality.

 

There is a trial that is taking place now involving Grupo Mirador and Palmera Properties in which they have been accused of fraud, but there has been no sentence as yet from the Judge. These buyers are in the same situation as most of our clients, they initiated their claim approximately a year ago and the outcome of that trial will give us an idea of how events may unfold in our own case.

 

This is a slow procedure and it is impossible for me to update you on a daily basis, sometimes weeks will pass and there will be nothing new. All I can say is we are working very hard on this case, but really we are talking about over 40 cases, although the cases are very similar, each has to be studied individually, which takes up a lot of time, plus the fact that we obviously have other clients and cases to deal with.

 

People need to know there are no quick fixes, this is a court case and if we want to these people to be held responsible for their actions, we need to tread carefully and make sure there is no doubt in the Judges mind.’

 

Tomás Fernández of IURA Despacho told us yesterday in a meeting at which Naomi was also present that the case we are filing is the first criminal action against Palmera Properties, Grupo Mirador and the other promoters and constructors in the firing line. We are alleging theft and fraud against these people and companies.

This is obviously far more serious than a civil case because imprisonment goes with it. That prospect will encourage the miscreants to work harder to settle matters.

Tomás and Naomi are following the activities of Gotardo Rodriguez who is now setting up new companies in Spain and the UK in order to continue his nefarious business activities. He is also using the old dodge of setting up in his wife’s name.

 

You only have to read the press, even if it is in Spanish, to realize that the Spanish property market is now a major disaster area. Malága province now has more than 100,000 unemployed for the first time since 1998 and it’s all down to the property market. Estate agents have closed their doors and constructors have laid off the work force and are fighting bankruptcy. I am not trying to be too much doom and gloom but the only way now for anyone to recover the deposits they have paid or to get their hands on the property is by legal action.

 

Whether people join us or go another route it is up to them but I would urge everybody to hire a good Spanish lawyer because the vultures such as the Spanish taxman are now circling all these Spanish companies.

We do have a big fight on our hands with this bunch of crooks and can only go forward to recover the money you have paid them.

Best regards,

Gwilym Rhys-Jones

Adviser and Investigator

Costa del Sol Action Group

http://www.costa-action.co.uk/

E-mail: gwilymr-j@terra.es

Tel: + (34) 951 31 82 77

Mobile: + (34) 699 840 606

Skype address: gwilymrj

 

 

       

 

 



Community thread: New at rentals

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07 Feb 2008 12:45 PM:

Please check out our web site www.costa-action.co.uk

Our lawyers IURA Despacho Juridico are institutuing criminal fraud proceedings against Palmera Properties, Grupo Mirador, Inroal, Urbassa & others so the judge can decide who stole what and order restitution.

The threat of prison is what will make the diretors of these companies stump up money and/or assets.

We represent the buyers of more than 50 properties through PP and we mail out news bulletins to 120.

Gwilym



Community thread: What sort of webcam?

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25 Jan 2008 6:10 PM:

 We have now been contacted by a number of anxious buyers at Mirador de Torreblanca.
It is a legal minefield and you do need a lawyer.
For a start there is an embargo on the land for unpaid taxes so the taxman will auction the land unlesss Grupo Mirador pays the taxes due.
Some buyers have signed a cesion de derechos which creates its own problems.
Gwilym


Community thread: Mirador de Torreblanca

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