27 Mar 2008 12:46 PM:

Wonderful news.  Very glad that this worked out for you!

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27 Mar 2008 12:07 PM:

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but after a phone call to the National Police, apparently you will need to submit your application again.  (Or at least, according to what they have told me). 

The application should be made (you will need to queue prior to 9:00 in the morning in order to get a number) at:

Policia nacional de Torrevieja

C/ Plaza del Molino s/n

Torrevieja (Alicante)

Tlf: 965-708-834

 

I hope this helps!

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26 Mar 2008 10:36 AM:

RE: JohnKath regarding the stamps... I have now double-checked and see that each branch of the National Police in fact DO have different stamps on them which relate to the local branch itself.  Therefore I am sure that your blue stamps are fine.

RE: pinetree's comments, I cannot agree more that it is of paramount importance to ask the questions and be certain to be completely clear before going ahead.  Our firm specialises in property conveyancing services, (providing English-speaking assistance) which is unfortunately a rarity here in Spain at the moment. 

When purchasing or selling property in Spain, I cannot possibly recommend strongly enough that you consult an independent lawyer (best not to simply go with the law firm recommended by the estate agent / developer as there is a chance they might not have your best interest at mind).  The horror stories that I have heard (and seen) for individuals that didn't are far too devastating and shockingly frequent to flirt with.

 

 

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25 Mar 2008 3:07 PM:

The best way to know if they are copies or not is to see the stamp by the National Police.  It is a circular stamp which should say "Comiseria XXXX de España" on it. 

This stamp should be in colour, and should look as though it was stamped on (not copied).

If they are in fact copies rather than the originals, then obtaining a new NIE Number certificate can be done either by filling in the standard application form, presenting yourself in person with the form, the copy of your NIE Number certificate, and your passport, and mentioning that you are requesting a duplicate certificate for use in your property purchase.

They will then issue you a receipt and you will need to go to the bank and pay the fee (should be around 6 EUR), and then return when you are instructed to collect it.

Alternatively, you can use a company like NIE Number Direct to obtain the duplicate originals on your behalf.  Don't hesitate to call or email me directly.

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25 Mar 2008 12:05 PM:

Sorry for not being clear!

Every local branch of the National Police will accept applications for, process, and then issue the NIE Number certificates to the individuals themselves (in person).  What some (many in fact) will not allow is for someone else to submit an application on their behalf.  (E.G. if you did not want to wait in line for hours, and would rather have someone else apply for you).

I'm afraid I have never heard of a "black and white code".  If you let me know where you heard of this, then I can investigate further.  Additionally, the "foreigners office" is a term often used to describe the department for foreigners within the National Police (where the NIE Numbers are applied for and obtained).  It can be confused with the Town Hall's department (where you would do empadronamiento, NOT apply for / collect an NIE Number.  Do remember, this is the National Police of Spain, not your local poilce or the guardia civil (these are different).

Regarding the tax, you have stated that your partner has their NIE number (perhaps not the certificate, but he knows the number - e.g. if he has a Social Security - orange - card, it would be printed on there) therefore you should have no fear that the taxes you paid were allocated properly. 

Note that having the NIE Number is one thing, and having the NIE Number certificate is entirely different.  The number is yours for life, and even if you KNOW the number, that is sufficient for many purposes.  (E.G. opening a bank account, on the application form you simply write in the number).  However when signing for the purchase of a property, the NIE Number is not only used for tax purposes, but the certificate itself (original) is used as a form of identification.  This is why the notaries often require the original certificate.

It is highly unlikely that you have an "illegal NIE Number".  As for your solicitor, if (in their local area) they cannot apply for / collect the NIE Number on your behalf, then there is very little they can do (apart from travelling themselves to a town that would allow them to do so).

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