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10 May 2009 10:40 AM by michaelwr Star rating. 96 forum posts Send private message

Hello,

       I've received nothing via email so thanks for the info on this thread.

My concerns are,

- services are still below what we expected, i.e. security is poor, where are the internal phones for calling security/confirming visitors, issues around unreliable lighting/TV, forum is incomplete. Even noticed the handles and panels are coming of the bins already.

I believe for my Jardines 3, 75 and 90 euros is fair but ONLY ONCE all these services are completed but where are they? Have things really improved much since last summer?

I think if we agree this budget then it sets a benchmark where to get suitable security that will be an additional cost and give later justification to increase charges once they arrive.

I would suggest the 2008 bill of 30-50 odd euros' a month is fair till the services are delivered, provide them with some motivation to deliver  and once delivered we can have a real benchmark of costs and what is delivered.

 

 




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10 May 2009 1:11 PM by Jann Star rating in Merseyside and Jardi.... 802 forum posts Send private message

Have been trying to log onto the condado services site to see if theres any further community info for this meeting but I'm having problems, either a box comes up requesting password (which I have from registering) but it just retruns over and over - or a 'page cannot be displayed' notification comes up. Anyone else experiencing problems?



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10 May 2009 6:02 PM by cuz Star rating in Warwickshire and Lo.... 685 forum posts Send private message

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Hi Jann

I'm not having a problem logging on to Condado, just a thought, are you scrolling down the right hand side to the word "forum"? under "site links",  If you click on that it should take you to the forum log on page, as opposed to the "world press"  if you click on "live chat" or "meeting place"



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10 May 2009 6:17 PM by Jann Star rating in Merseyside and Jardi.... 802 forum posts Send private message

Dont even get that far Cuz- as soon as a box opens for the site so does a login box.Then we get nowhere fast- will try my 'History'  to back track to last loggin.



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10 May 2009 11:06 PM by tarapa Star rating in East Sussex & Jardin.... 85 forum posts Send private message

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Does anyone know why the 'association' of people have not used the forums on the condado alhama services website to introduce themselves etc.  Someone has gone to the trouble of setting it all up and the people who are wanting us to vote for them as presidents are not using it.

Also I realise that all or most of this 'association' are spanish but does anyone know if any of them are even users of this website. I always see talk OF them here, but never actually anything FROM them.

I was wondering if Cesar Garcia, the jardine 7 nominee was a user on here?

I do think it sounds like they have done a good job so far and have good intentions but feel like I am not able to make direct contact with them.

 




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11 May 2009 10:54 AM by ant and andi Star rating. 479 forum posts Send private message

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just recieved an email from RPM (WOW)  if you have no one to take your vote you can fax your vote to the number below.

Dear Anthony,

You can delegate your vote to any of your neighbors or even to us, but
you have to send your delegation signed. If you prefer, you could send
it by fax, which number is 0034 968231196

Best Regards,

Lali Gonzalez




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11 May 2009 11:22 AM by maverick100 Star rating in Ireland and naranjos.... 81 forum posts Send private message

Hi all

Could someone please give me the e-mail address of rpm so i can ask why they have not invited me to the party.

The fact that they have not informed all owners does it make the vote legal, because if i was not part of this forum i would not know who rpm are and i would not know anything about the meeting this week.

Does anyone know of anyone running on naranjos jardine 4 so that i can give them my proxy vote

regards

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11 May 2009 11:54 AM by ant and andi Star rating. 479 forum posts Send private message

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MARK

LOOK ON THE THREAD "GARDEN PRESIDENT NOMINATIONS"

general@rpmspain.com

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11 May 2009 12:00 PM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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Hi Mark,

The email address for Victoria is general@rpmspain.com although I believe she is only part time for them and works for another consulting company victoria@carrillo-asesores.com

You are correct, under the rules of association all owners should be informed of the calling of an EGM at least 6 days prior to the event.  Good luck with getting anywhere with that

I believe that Terry is standing for Naranjos Garden 4, not confirmed,

Complete the proxy form This link deligating  :-

MR TERRANCE POSSEHL, Apartment N231

and send to jillandterry@condadodealhamaservices.com
 

Phil



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11 May 2009 12:15 PM by maverick100 Star rating in Ireland and naranjos.... 81 forum posts Send private message

Thanks guys

filling out proxy for terry as we speak

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11 May 2009 2:58 PM by PGM Star rating in Cheshire & LOS NARAN.... 862 forum posts Send private message

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Dear All

Just back from Condado

 

Whilst out, I had a couple of meeting with RPM about the Budget. The first thing to mention is Victoria and her college are NOT just working 2 days a week they inform me they work every weekday and don’t know how the rumour they are only working part time has come about.

 

That said from the information Victoria has given me they are having no more success in getting answers from PW than the rest of us. This gives me very little faith in RPM’s ability to properly administer our community if they are not able to successfully communicate with PW, we need a stronger independent company to do this.

 

Thank to the Association Condado de Alhama  and others for the work they have done for all at Condado the costs are coming down.

 

I am not able to attend the meeting on the 16th May, but I have given my vote to someone from my Jardin who is going to the meeting, I suggest you all do the same but don’t give the vote to RPM or PW to act for you as they will I believe vote in there own interests.

 

I have asked that my vote be used to vote down the budget. My reason for this is: The way the budget is divided up:

 

2 bed apartment on Jardin 5 paying 71 euros per month (good)

2 bed apartment on Jardin 1 paying 93 euros per month (Bad)

3 bed apartment on Jardin 3 paying 90 euros per month (good)

3 bed apartment on Jardin 1 paying 113 euros per month (Bad)

 

 

2 bed apartment on Naranjos Jardin 3 paying 73 euros per month (good)

2 bed apartment on Naranjos Jardin 1 paying 93 euroes per month (Bad)

3 bed apartment on Naranjos Jardin 3 paying 94 euros per month (good)

3 bed apartment on Naranjos Jardin 4 paying 112 euroes per month (Bad)

 

This is in my opinion not fair and must be changed. All properties of similar size have a similar coefficient value and are receiving the same services, so should pay similar amount in charges. However the way the individual gardens and penthouses blocks have been apportioned there part of the budget, this has had the affect of unequally distributing the cost, thus making some pay more and some pay less than others for the same provision. It has been suggested that this can now only be changed if all agree and as those that have benefited from this will not vote for change success is not possible. I am not convinced that this is correct; I think and hope that if PW have wrongly apportioned the budget than surely there must be a way of appealing this decision through the court if necessary. If not the winners will always be winners and the others will always be loser’s and the double whammy will be that this will also affect the value of your property as properties with lower community charge will probably sell for more in the future.

 

 

Villa Jana’s

My other areas of concern is the contribution the Villa Jana’s are providing to Condado, firstly who are the Villa Jana’s part of the budget being paid to Alhama Jardins or Naranjos Jardins? RPM have said to me verbally they are contributing to Alhama Jardins but went on to say this makes no difference as the common services are shared by all, but this is not correct, as the way PW have apportioned the budget is to separate out Naranjos and Jardins as separate budgeted areas and have applied a budget for each one.

So at the end of the financial year when they look at actual cost for each area Naranjos will have used more services and more wear and tear costs on its facilities as the Villa Jana’s are in the Naranjos area of Condado but they will have contributed to the Alhama Jardins budget, and correspondingly Alhama Jardins will have use less for the same reason but are benefiting from receiving the money. And going forward this will have the affect of increasing the costs to Naranjos area without benefiting from this money in its budget. That said I see nothing in the budget provided to us showing that Villa Jana’s are contributing anything to the budget? These are completed properties so the owners or PW should be contributing. And whilst I am on this issue we have NO information showing us any contribution is being paid to the community by PW for all the other completed but unsold properties on Condado.

 

Outer Ring Road

Who has controlling interest in this road, if it is not Condado Owners than why are we paying for it?

Who is all the car parking for which makes up more than 50% of the outer ring road area and who has the controlling interest in this? If this is not Condado Owners what contribution is being provided for the upkeep of this area by those that do? If  Condardo Owners do pay for  this area (Road and Car parking) then we should be able to gain revenue from it such as car parking charges for any future golf events to help pay for its maintenance.

 

Condado Security

We are paying for security that is almost none existent despite numerous people’s complaints, the staffs on the gates pay little or no attention to who comes and goes. Over the last ten days I have drove though the gate on at least 10 occasion were the barrier has been up and no one has been in the security lodge. Most of the time the number plate recognition system isn’t working not that I can see the point of it anyway.

I would suggest that one gate is staffed 24/7 – 365 days a year for visitors and deliveries to report to and gain authorisation to enter the resort for which a proper protocol should be provided and implemented. And all other gates have an electronic entry system for the convenience of owners and residents, The cost of modification could be recovered from the reduction in gate security staff required now and later and this would provide much better security than we presently have. For those who are renting out properties a system of issuing electronic swipe cards to open the gates could be issued which would stop working after the end of their authorised stay at the resort, just like hotels do with room cards, so no worries about getting cards back from renters.

 

Phil

 

 


 



This message was last edited by PGM on 11/05/2009.


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11 May 2009 6:07 PM by danseex Star rating in Los Naranjos J4 n253. 652 forum posts Send private message

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Hi Phil (PGM)  nice to meet up and put a name to a face over the weekend.

Phil (Ptan) why is that proxy form different to the one RPM sent out? the one I filled in did not require NIE numbers, does that make it invalid?

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