15 Sep 2008 4:59 PM:

Hey guys

Just to let you know, i just got my bill in for a 1 bed apartment an it was €142, with 1 air con unit, so i guess thats about average, usually it is about €80 - €100 as i have no gas here, all elec. 

Hope that helps.

Thread: Bad Tenants

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05 Sep 2008 8:06 PM:

Hey abbbbbbbbbb1 and of course Phil

Lots of bees...
I do understand that not everyone buys to rent out, that was not what i was saying, i was merely pointing out that most landlords rent out to make money, how they operate this business in essence will determine just how much money they make.

I take on board everything you both said, and understand that some tenants can cause problems with damage etc, but with the measures i have outlined you should not be much out of pocket and hopefully with proper background checks you should have some nice tenants who are proud to look after your home.
I have three apartments, and i have rented them all out for around 4 years with little or no trouble at all, and the reason i guess is that i am strict and follow my own guidelines. BUT.. I know, that if was not around to carry out the checks, regular inspections, changeover, contracts etc etc.. or that i knew someone "family or someone i have known for years that i could trust" do carry out this for me, then i would not rent them out, because whilst there are many reputable letting agents out there, some are far from it.
And at the end of they day, when they are putting your property, your money and your future at risk by not doing there job properly then of course, something has to be done.

All the above being said, it seems to me that most of the problems arise out of short term holiday lets.. is the money that much better for those two or three months than over a period of 11 months on long term? Is it worth the hassle? i guess, those are the questions owners should be asking themselves before renting out. I only rent out long term, because as you say Phil, short term you are usually just dealing with someone over the internet and take a minimal deposit..

I guess there is definately no easy answer to these problems, but we can all take precautions as far as possible to secure our futures.

I hope you have better tenants in the future and do not have anymore problems.


Regards

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05 Sep 2008 7:42 PM:

Ahh i am with you now.. Well just one solution remains.. send the heavies in!!!

Always worked for me in the past, either that or have a friend (like me) in the Police lol

But i do understand what you are saying. The Spanish "legal system" is so inconsistent and has many flaws. One being, you can issue a denuncia against someone for loud music and they can be closed down imediately, but try and get someone out of your property even though their "legal" contract has expired??? 

I just dont understand why it doesnt hold up.. maybe more background checks to start with etc?

Thread: Long Let Security against bad tenants

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05 Sep 2008 6:36 PM:

Hi Phil

I was under the impression that the law regarding letting of properties was for a maximum of 11 months anyway, so why would they be in a property for longer than that, unless they had signed up under another agreement?

Just a thought

Thread: Long Let Security against bad tenants

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05 Sep 2008 6:32 PM:

Hi everyone..

I am new to this forum, so would like to pop on and say a quick hello and add my little bit to this discussion.. A couple of questions spring to mind..

Firstly, i do not think this "website" is a good idea. The main reason being that one persons decision to label another a "bad tenant" is purely subjective. It could be for a number of reasons, misunderstanding, miscommunication, my clean is not your clean, it can be very ambiguous to say the least. Unless of course you are talking about tenants that intently damage the property with ill will, or fail to pay rental fees etc, then i can understand them being labelled this, however a few questions for would be landlords....

1) When a landlord decides to offer their property up for let, whether it be short or indeed long term, does this landlord not perform background checks?
2) Do they not carry out regular inspections as agreed at the commencement of the contract between both parties?
3) Do they not take a nice security deposit in the event of damage or non payment of rental fees?

At the end of the day, landlords rent their properties out for one reason only, to make money.. Not to help out those who are looking for a holiday or somewhere to stay while they are working in spain lol  So, with this in mind, there is an element of risk as with any business transaction, and with the above measures in place (at least) surely it would make for a smoother ride??

Tony

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