07 Feb 2007 8:35 PM:

Hugh I have sent you a note privately via your e mail address.  Thanks for your note Joe. We obviously have had different experiences with Jamie Lucas. Hope you sort out the kitchen to your liking but think it is absolutely scandalous that you are having to do this after all this time and money. Good Luck  and perhaps our paths will cross when MB is finally up and running. I am going over next Thursday 15 Feb 'til 27 Feb staying in my apt so will be able to feedback onto message board on my return. Altho' I strongly suspect that there will not be much to say as I've spoken to another Eye member who was about to complete on MB Phase 1 but he was there last  week and was shocked at what he saw or rather at what he did not see i.e. a complex almost finished. It is no where near finished at least where the apts are concerned. He's consulting a soliciter and in the words of yet another Eye member '...am cutting my losses and have no intention of completing.' 
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01 Feb 2007 11:54 PM:

Hi Joe.  Do not arrange  to have your kitchen redesigned at your own expense. That was my intention  when I saw the show apt  in 2006  and my intention when I was there furnishing the apt in Oct 2006. Whilst I was there i.e. last 2 weeks Oct 2006 until 30 Nov 2006. I met a family from Birmingham who were wandering around the complex. I invited them up to my apt and we discussed Manilva Beach. Much to my regret I did not take their tele no. They have bought in Block D. However I also spoke to another couple who had been living in the UK when they bought off plan in Manilva Beach but who now have re located to Estepona and are buying in MB. They  too are in Block D. The guy, who I obviously can not name without his permission had told me that he had gone ballistic with Stuart  whatever his surname is re the 'fitted' kitchens who 'promised' him  that they would provide him with wall mounted cupboards etc. The fact that this guy happened to work in television and had worked with an ex franchisee of OVP's Bath office who happens to present  BBC1's  'Homes under the Hammer' has I am certain absolultely nothing to do with OVP's promise to this guy whose contact details I did get.  So if they can 'promise' one owner they can bloody well 'promise' the rest of us!!!  I am doing nothing to my kitchen until I see what transpires.  I will also say to you Joe not to upset those at OVP by descibing them as 'useless'.  I had a letter from Jamie Lucas bemoaning the fact that I had referred to him as 'clueless' and asking me to remove the adjective from the board. Adjective being my word not his as he probably does not understand the meaning of the word. For your benefit Jamie adjective is a descibing word e.g the girl is pretty, the boy is clueless, the company selling properties in Spain is appalling etc. He's told me that OVP are 'monitoring'  this site. Well monitor that!!  I shall reply to your letter Mr Lucas in due course. He did want to discuss matters over the 'phone but as I told him I want all, absolutely all correspondance  with OVP to be in writing. No more 'we'll do this', 'we'll do that' over the 'phone.Hence his letter to me. In the words of  a fellow buyer I was talking to last night ' their word is worthless.'  As I said Joe I advise you to do nothing with the kitchen and hold out. But it's your decision ultimately.

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24 Jan 2007 9:52 PM:

Hi Karen. Thanks for your message and my apologises for this delayed reply. As I said in my earlier message my comments related to Phase 1. With regard to the 'fitted kitchens' I too saw the show apt on Phase 1 when I was in Manilva  in March  2006. Like yourself I also was absolutely aghast  on being shown the 'fitted kitchen'. On my return to the UK  I  rang OVP and spoke to Joe Barker, who incidentally has left OVP ( I wouldn't at all be surprised if  OVP is second  only to McDonalds with regard to staff tunover!)  He suggested that I write to J K-Smith which I did do. As to the response click on to Estepona Beach and Country Club  where I have posted a message. As I've mentioned in earlier messages I have furnished the apt myself  and currently my 'fitted kitchen'  consists of cardboard boxes  on the floor where  I have to keep pots and pans, ovenware etc. The top of my fridge houses crockery and cutlery. My storage cupboard downstairs is effectively my pantry where I have to store bottles of water, tinned food, dry food stuff etc. If  you would like a copy of the letter I sent to JKS I'll be more than happy to e mail it to you.  I also have a copy of a letter from another Manilva buyer  (Phase 1)  who is taking  legal action vis a vis the 22K euros he has paid for furniture etc. Money he paid to OVP  in Jan 2006 ( 4290.00 euros) and then the remaining 17K euros paid to them Aug 2006.  I last saw his  apt a few weeks ago and its empty and filthy.  He'd been told in Oct 2006 that his apt  would be ready at the end of December. I dare say OVP's argument will be ' Erm, yes we did say  December but we didn't actually say  December 2006!!!!!!'  I have my friend's permission to forward his letter onto anyone who is interested. I see on the Estepona Beach message board OVP have issued a statement / threat. Oh how they must rue the day that Charles Babbage was born !!!!!  Regards Steven.
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24 Jan 2007 8:42 PM:

Hi Ged and thanks for your mesage. I sent you a reply via your e mail address. Wondering if you got it because there are certain things you need to do before going over to Manilva next month. If  you don't do what I advised  your journey  will be a waste of time. Regards Steven. 
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18 Jan 2007 9:59 PM:

Hi Stewart.My earlier message related to Phase 1 i.e. I can not see the complex being up and running by summer 2007 given the lack of activity I have seen since Oct 2006. Consequently I would be greatly surprised if Phase 2 were to be ready for Summer 2007 as Phase 1 is more advanced in its construction.

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