20 Jul 2010 9:54 AM:
Was the note written in Spanish? If not, I can fully understand the president not accepting it, as it would probably not be valid in a court of law. My only question is, who exactly is responsible for the children, and they are children in the eyes of the law, when they are at the pool? There is no lifeguard, God forbid there should be an accident, but the community does not want to find itself landed with a hefty lawsuit (it happens, believe me) so it has to make sure it's covered for such an eventuality. The rules regarding limiting non-residents are quite normal and make perfect sense to me - there's nothing more annoying for those owners who do pay the community fees than finding loads of kids who do not live there making it impossible to enjoy the facilities themselves. There's a perfectly good beach in Fuengirola that's free for everyone to use. As for copies of relevant minutes, neither the president nor the administrator is obliged to furnish you with these, you would have to ask your landlady to get them (yes, she has every right to them)
Yes the note was written in Spanish, and it had everything in it that the president requested in the first place. I do understand that they are children, but he had said already that it would be ok as long as I accepted full responsibility, which i do. I would never expect the responsibilty to fall to any one else other than myself..even if there was a lifeguard. I understand the reservations he might have, as you said there is no lifeguard and they do not want to be lumped with a lawsuit. In the note, I put that I accept total responsibility. for them and any friends (which is what he asked me to put). What I can't fathom is why after doing exactly what he asked, does he still have a problem? As regards non residents using the pool, I am not talking about 20 kids with their parents, I simply invited 1 friend per child (as it states in the normas) so that they had somebody to play with, as I have 2 brothers and remember that it was bad enough having to live with them, never mind only having them to play with during the summer holidays! Yes there is an excellent beach in Fuengirola, but I do not want my 13 and 11 yr olds to be there playing on their own. Here at the pool I can keep a regular eye on them and be close at hand if God forbid anything happened. The landlady ( a lovely but very old person) says to speak to the president so it looks like we're in a no win situation. But thanks for your point of view and info, as I said this is the first time since we have been here (nearly 10 years) that we have lived in an active community, so I'm not sure how it all works.
Understandable, I suppose, especially if there are other unaccompanied children there, but wrong in my opinion.
TBH I haven't seen any unaccompanied children but certainly unaccompanied under 16's. He certainly doesn't seem to stop people just walking in and using the pool at the weekends. I see them all the time strolling in with their towels over their shoulders. The community is gated but the pedestrian gate and the main block doors don't have any locks on them. They are putting locks on the block doors but you access the pool from the garden area.
With regards to sky t.v dishs etc, if permission has been granted to install one dish on a property, then permission for others must be allowed, however the community may have voted in the size and location of such dishs.
Yes there are other dishes, both spanish and SKY. We have a 1.3m and there are at least 3 on the other blocks.
When the change over from analog to digi and having a communal ariel we had to by law do the change over, (even if only one owner demands the spanish t.v) as our community lawyer confirmed that by spanish law, in a community and with a community ariel you have to supply information and news.
The aerial has been changed over, it just doesn't work. I have spoken to the landlady about this and she says to speak to the president as it's a community problem. There are other apartments that have erected their own TV aerials and signal boosters as apparantly it's a problem with the way it is all wired up due to the building being very old. We have been told that as we are facing the front and not the back that we cannot put up any dish or aerial as it will deface the building.
Unfortunately, as you do not own, you have very little redress and will not have access to Community stuff, but your owner has if they can be bothered to sort it for you.
I thought as much :( I don't think that the landlady can't be bothered, I think it's just that she is very old (90 I believe! although she doesn't look a day over 75!) and she doesn't want the hassle.
children spend all day playing by the pool and you simply can't do that if you're trying to work.
Thank you Faro. It is hard when you have no other option. I am very lucky in that my boss allows me to work from home. I work for a company in Gibraltar and I used to travel between their Malaga and Gib offices every day. But even though I am at home, I AM working normally from 8.30am - at least 6pm, so it's the bulk of the day. Luckily both my children have adapted well to having me here but not having me (if that makes sense!)
Thanks again to everyone for your replies :)
Jo
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