06 Oct 2015 10:22 PM:

We're on a whole different topic now hugh_man so this is my last response on collection of dues, on which score I agree with your comments  - many of us have pushed for this to be resolved for several years, even given similar advice to yours.  

The thread has now gone the whole loop and is back where I started - you can see what happens when we try to vote and from my other thread "Limiting who can be in position of President" you can see how the community feels about an invader in the high chair.

It all needs sorting, though I have no idea how that can be achieved when folk are so anti.

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06 Oct 2015 8:48 PM:

That's a great point, thank you for the laugh Roberto.

hugh_man, I love to smile but as a newcomer to this forum I'm only allowed to smile sideways - only you super-starred authors are allowed to smile the right way up !!

Back to the real topic, as if things weren't already muddy.  I sent the question to another Spanish lawyer on Saturday and they've just responded with the following slant on the issue:

As the decision was discussed and minuted under an item headed “4 Renovación de cargos para el ejercicio 2015/2016" (unofficial translation: Renewal fees for the year 2015/16) their opinion "is legal and binding as far as that period is concerned, no for renewal of president for the future"

Marvin Minsky said "You don't understand anything until you learn it more than one way.

 

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06 Oct 2015 6:16 PM:

hugh_man and Roberto - absolutely we're all upset, especially as houses need painting externally and at this rate the 'oik' will probably get his nice and new looking, for his rentals, courtesy of the community's kitty.

Every year it's discussed, every year there's no conclusion because the Administrator (the x-administrator that is not the newly voted one) says it's not that easy because he's not resident in Spain and it'll cost so much money and blah blah blah.  Feel free to read your own interpretation into that !!

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06 Oct 2015 6:09 PM:

Thanks to Maria for her post.

I''m not convinced Roberto, I think it just takes us back to the original question of whether a decision to skip properties where the owner is not resident can be enforced (quizzical face as I'm not able to insert a smiley)

Maria's number 69, says any owner can be voted in as President.

Number 70, says a President does not have to be resident the only requirement is to be an owner.

Then number 71, says If nobody puts themselves forward for the task then "A turn is then in place and the corresponding owner by said turn will be the president." there is no mention of being able to skip a property owner for any reason.

So one might interpret Maria's Q&A, which I read before my initial post, actually agree with the second part of the answer I received locally yesterday, that a Community cannot go against the HPA, which I've read many times over the last few years and as a retired accountant I can see ambiguities arising from so many angles.

In this case, I would read Maria's Q&A to be that IF next year the current president stands down and IF no owner puts themself forward for election THEN the only option available is to take the position to the next turn with no vote being required AND no legitimate reason to skip over to someone the meeting attendees prefer.

It just goes to show we can all read things differently and there are often two right answers :-)

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05 Oct 2015 8:23 PM:

I think I'm just calling it sad, it's like watching kids being mean to each other in the play ground.  

I really have no objection to the locals running the place their way, in fact it may be better this way.  I do, with several others, feel like a red flag's been waved - everyone's upset at one British chap who hasn't paid a cent of maintenance since he bought the place 6 years ago, and now the rest of us foreigners are being tarred with the same brush even though it's far from true.

eso es la vida, pero no me va a dejar de disfrutar del golf, el sol y el vino

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